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[-] ToastyWaffles@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago

It's already starting to happen in lemmy.ml, saw a post in world news where they called someone a neo Nazi for pointing out a pro Ukraine article was written by a Ukrainian govt official. Chaos ensued.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago

I love libs now support literal nazis to the hilt while calling everyone else a nazi for pointing it out.

[-] relay@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

its funny on one hand, but also really disturbing tbh. In the USA there are the incoherant liberals and the incoherant fascists and any left wing movement that seek to make the world better is stifled with childish namecalling.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

At this point I'm convinced that US is just going to implode as a country. As economic situation continues to unravel people are becoming increasingly agitated, and lacking any sort of understanding of what's actually happening leads to increased tribalism. Most people in US are now aware at some level that the country isn't working for the majority of the people, but they just blame the other camp for all the problems. This can easily turn into civil unrest and violence once the material conditions deteriorate to the point where a significant portion of the public finds them unbearable.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 years ago

LMAO just checked c/ukraine on lemmy.ml and it's completely overrun by libs inventing reality. It's going to be absolutely incredible to watch the meltdowns when it becomes obvious that the west is losing the war.

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 years ago

Wait it is not obvious yet? how obvious are we talking here?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago

Reality hasn't pierced the bubble yet, in mainstream lib circles Ukraine is still winning and Russian army is falling apart. Putin is about to be overthrown any day now.

I expect that the turning point will be when US cuts and runs. The failed offensive likely moved up the timeline for that significantly. It's going to be interesting to see how NATO meeting goes in July.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

That's one of the problems with the WSJ article: the framing implies that Ukraine still has a chance of kicking out Russia militarily. While we might be able to see through the headline, even articles like this provide some comfort to liberals.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Oh for sure, and it's pretty much impossible to publish an honest article in western media at this point. I mean look how Sachs has to go on random youtube channels now.

[-] Kettlepants@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

I don't think the West plans on losing. I feel they plan to continue it for as long as possible, so as to transfer as much wealth to the military industrial complex as possible.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

It's pretty clear that all the plans the west made over the past two years have resulted in failure, I'm not sure why we should expect anything different going forward. Definitely agree that wealth transfer to the oligarchs who own the MIC is a big part of what keeps the proxy war going though.

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