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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 63 points 1 year ago

Down with the settler government

[-] HumanPersonPerson@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Go to hell you bloodthirsty pig. Slaughtering civilians in the streets and inside air raid sirens is not resistance, it's inhuman.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

When you limit yourself to specific incidents, it’s easy to judge right and wrong. Over the course of years, though, neither side can claim the moral high ground.

Overall, this is one of the most pointless, wasteful, and inhumane conflicts in human history.

[-] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Personally, when dealing with two groups who claim the same land, I side with the one that's been there the longest, not the one that shouldered it's way in, demanded a room, and started shooting anyone who told them to leave.

But the US kind of has a penchant for that.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Isn't that what the IDF does?

[-] timidgoat@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Killing - no matter the victim is inhuman.

Believing one side has the right to kill while the other must take it, is pretty gross.

"Slaughtering civilians in the streets" is precisely what the IDF does on the regular, just so you know. It's hard to imagine any group of people would live under military occupation for 70+ years after being forced to leave their homes for refugee camps without the desire to fight for their freedom.

[-] Sivalente@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

No it's not. You're just shilling out propaganda on the day of a massacre.

[-] timidgoat@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Sorry, but I have been an advocate for Palestinian rights for years. I'm not just shilling out propaganda on the day of a massacre. As I type this, the confirmed death tolls have Israelis near 100 while Palestinian deaths are near double that. So if you want to start talking about massacres, just so far today Israel has caused more death, let alone the days, weeks, months, years and decades prior to today.

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago

There is almost nothing in this world that is more human than killing other humans. History is full of it. Religious texts are full of it. It's what humans are best at. Is it awful? Sure, but it's an act as human as it gets.

[-] timidgoat@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Point made. Sadly it's true. Especially today as we spend trillions on technology designed to kill.

[-] kayjay@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Which is why the IDF also needs to be eliminated.

Both sides are and have been commiting atroscious acts against civilians and neither side can be excused for their inhuman actions.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

But in that consideration the power imbalance cannot be ignored. The IDF is a highly modern, most likely even nuclearly armed army, wheras the people inside Gaza are denied access to such simple things as building materials by the Israeli Apartheid.

[-] kayjay@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely agree with you here

[-] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine being brutalised for so long you resort to this

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Very disappointed in the Lemmy community for down voting this.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

We need international peacekeeping in the region to enforce a new set of accords

[-] kayjay@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

The international community has shown to be Pro-Israeli and thus anti-Palestinian. The Palestinian Plan for Partition was a plan to peacefully split up British Palestine into a separate Jewish and Arab state, as well as Jerusalem becoming a free city. The plan gave 62% of the land to the Jewish community despite the Arabic population having twice the population. Obviously the Arab population rejected this plan on the basis that it violated the right to natuonal self-determination, and thus this perpetual conflict was born.
Especially with the US being so obviously Pro-Israel and having virtually all power on the decision-making of the West, why would you think the Arab population would ever get fair treatment under an international "peacekeeping" mission?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

The "international community" huh?

More like "the US and it's friends"

[-] kayjay@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Well, yeah, the US and its allies are the controlling party in the international community.

[-] thilosch@mastodon.social 4 points 1 year ago

@bdonvr @zephyreks Yes please, but not like this!

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