878
This (rule)s
(lemmy.blahaj.zone)
Yes we do
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2023
878 points (100.0% liked)
196
16243 readers
1833 users here now
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
They hated Bill Clinton because the "scandal" was that he had consensual sex.
Curiously when it came to Trump who had sex with thirteen-year-olds and a long history of sexually assaulting women, suddenly all but a few Republicans cared, including none of those in office.
They said the scandal was that it was consensual not that it was not, so your examples aren't the opposite.
Though of course the power dynamics in the Clinton case makes the consent a bit iffy.
For most of the population, the notion of non-consensual sex is considered worse than the notion of consensual sex. These days, we're trying to even teach young adults to engage others opt-in rather than opt-out (e.g. get a yes first).
But yes, this is very recent, with challenges to the criminality of wife-rape as recent as the 1970s (and the presumption that abuse within families was their business and not that of the state or of law-enforcement -- that changed in the 1990s!)
So yes, there are folks like Matt Walsh and Tucker Carlson who are literally pro-rape (that is, sex assault should be legal in some circumstances) and pro-child-marriage (Tennessee is trying to create a higher tier of marriage that gets more benefits, excludes gay couples but allows for marrying girl children.) So yes, some Republicans may hold more contempt for Clinton's consensual proclivities than for Trump's non-consensual ones.
But more likely it's because to Republicans, loyalty is more important than principal, and anything can be condoned if someone marches in lockstep and salutes snappily for the transnational white power movement.
And thinking leftists idolize him enough to build a statue of him. Right wingers not knowing the difference between liberals and leftists, again.
TBF there are Bill Clinton statues. One went up in 2009 on Bill Clinton Boulevard.
Theres not much for Donald Trump so far, some anti-trump activist displays and a small gold statue at a CPAC event, and hopefully it stays that way for a good while.
Think a relationship with your superior is ever consensual. Huge power dynamic issues especially when someone's the president
From Ms. Lewinsky's position, it was wholly consensual, in that as a nineteen-year-old intern she got to have sex with a POTUS, and Clinton was not too creepy (for the nineties). Her problem was that once the encounter happened, the White House felt the need to distance her from Clinton which affected her career.
The You're Wrong About podcast did a good beeakdown of it all.
But fucking a hooker is better than getting a blowjob?
That's not the point they made. It was because he lied. It was because he cheated on his wife. Yet trump full on pays for a hooker and no one gives a fuck. Even Dems voted to impeach Clinton.
Remember when Gore conceded in a too-close-call election because he didn't want to risk compromising the integrity of the entire federal government by dragging out the fight?
It's almost cute now
Especially when the left had the whole MeToo thing and would generally criticize the power dynamic these days.
You think MeToo was a left topic????
"Progressive," yes.
"Seizing the means," also kinda, yes. Since many of the situations involved bosses exploiting the vulnerabilities of their workers.
You do realize its about sexual harassment, abuse and rape right?
You do realize the right loves those things, right?
Noone in his right mind can think this way honestly???????