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[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

High reading level shouldn't be elitist, we should strive to have a well educated population

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

It's really weird to call a 7th grade reading level or better elitism in the first place, and calling it "weird elitism" is even worse.

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

should be pretty easy to provide a tangible benefit, then

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Sure: being able to tell the author of the text is lying to you.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

This point should be front and center when countering the STEM circlejerk of "humanities are useless".

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The humanities are objectively useful. Grade school reading level as a metric is not.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Grade school reading level as a metric is not.

What would you suggest instead?

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No idea, but me not offering up an alternative doesn't make it a less useless metric for supporting the conclusions everybody seems to be drawing

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You started this thread by saying

what’s the concrete advantage of the average person reading at a high level is, past some sort of weird elitism?

and now you're trying to point out that grade level isn't a good metric. So is it that reading level doesn't matter at all, or that the metrics we use are flawed? Reductio ad absurdum, is it ok for an entire populace, or at least the vast majority of it, to be illiterate?

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a useful skill, and one that's not tested in grade school reading level

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The fact that the irony of your answer is lost on you is fucking tragic.

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry to say but society works by hierarchies, some people deserve more than others.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

No they don't.

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

some people deserve more than others

this is also elitism

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s… why I agree with it.

[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because most people are little more than animals, by choice and aren't worth the effort of trying to help.

I'm all for providing for their basic needs, often against their own voting habits and thus their own desires, but expecting some poor redneck to suddenly be valuable as a person is just insane.

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You don't want a well-educated population for the sake of having a well-educated population. You want it so that you can have a productive population. And clearly, a high reading level isn't required to be a productive member of society since otherwise reading level wouldn't drop over time like this figure is implying.

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