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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by hallenbeck@mastodon.online to c/football@lemmy.world

According to this analysis of VAR decisions for the 22/23 season, Liverpool were the joint second beneficiaries of VAR decisions, while City were bottom.

So why do #LFC fans believe there is a conspiracy against them? Where does that belief stem from?

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37631044/how-var-decisions-affected-every-premier-league-club-2022-23

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[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every fanbase thinks the refs are out to get them. Liverpool also have a historical reason to distrust authority in the country with the Hillsborough coverage and accusations as well as general Thatcherism

And this is just tracking whether VAR decisions (e.g. corrective reviews) either led to a goal that was disallowed or vice versa, etc..

It isn't tracking issues like what occurred against Spurs or the Rodri handball incident.

It's also a single season of statistics.

The point of this anyway? We trying to act like it wasn't a colossal mistake last weekend?

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly. VAR decisions going against you mean refs on the field are calling mistaken calls FOR you. So, having a lot of VAR calls going AGAINST you means you would’ve gotten unfairly favorable treatment but didn’t.

[-] hallenbeck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

But you ultimately did get favourable treatment. So where does the bias against Liverpool vibe come from?

[-] hallenbeck@mastodon.online 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@thoro @football

The analysis also takes into account subjective decisions, not just goals.

I'm not sure every fanbase does think refs are out to get them. I don't get that sense in the Spurs community, for instance. But can't speak for everyone.

So no, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why Liverpool fans seem to think they get an unfair share of bad decisions leading to talk of conspiracy theories.

Hillsborough and Thatcherism don't seem like particularly valid reasons.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, but by subjective calls do they mean penalty decisions and red cards? What about decisions that are not reviewed? That's what I mean. It's only showing corrective actions.

If you look at the 2021-2022 link, the Rodri handball incident is not included.

Here are a couple pretty biased articles if you want a read.

One and two

[-] hallenbeck@mastodon.online 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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