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[-] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think saying it is slower than a slow jog underplays it a bit. 10km/h is a 6 min km which is a common running speed for amateur runners and a reasonable speed, 12km/h is a 5 min km which requires above average fitness, and 15km/h is a 4 min km which is an elite amateur pace. Anything approaching 20km/h is elite professional athlete level.

I think the point is still the same though. You have now introduced another new term to me. “Bell Blitz”. Really going after those worst of crimes.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I'm a runner and personally, my slow easy runs might go as slow as 5:30s, at the extreme end, which is why I said that 10 km/h is slower than a slow jog. 5:00s is more my usual slow run pace for runs less than 12 km in distance. But yeah, I guess it's mainly a semantic point. The important thing is that when running, one can easily exceed the supposed speed limit on that bridge, which is just crazy.

The bell blitzes strike me as the same kind of stupid as when they crack down on "jaywalking" by pedestrians in the CBD. In a better world, our entire CBD would be a shared-use zone where cars can drive if they need to, but pedestrians always have right of way. Likewise, the bell law should just be done away with. But our politicians are so car-brained the idea of these is abhorrent to them.

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In a better world, our entire CBD would be a shared-use zone where cars can drive if they need to, but pedestrians always have right of way

Pedestrians do have right of way, at least in QLD. There's no situation where it's acceptable to run over a pedestrian except if it was literally impossible to avoid doing so (e.g. if a pedestrian sprints across the street unexpectedly and the driver has no time to swerve or hit the brakes).

That doesn't mean it's legal for pedestrians to obstruct traffic. J-walking leads to traffic jams which leads to situations where pedestrians/cyclists/etc are more likely to be run over and killed. When someone j-walks on a busy streat they are placing lives of other pedestrians in danger.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Pedestrians do have right of way, at least in QLD

Incorrect. Yes, a driver will get in trouble if they recklessly run into a pedestrian, but the driver still has right of way when continuing along a straight road, or when at an intersection where the pedestrian has a red light.

I'm not interested in that semantic argument some people like to get into about the difference between "right of way" and "must give way to". One is just the inverse of the other. No more, no less.

It's not the same as a fully pedestrianised mall, like Queen Street, or a mixed-use area like Albert Street between Adelaide St and Burnett Ln. That latter is what I'm chiefly talking about here. That's how the CBD should be designed.

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