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That beast of a comment by Donald Glover. He is perceptive and also very nice. Love him
His approach to discourse is admirable. He's woke, which I'm not a fan of, but he's respectful and has so much empathy for people who disagree with him that one can't help but respect and admire that.
You’re not a fan of being aware of social inequalities?
He doesn't actually know what he's talking about. He's flailing around trying to reconcile what the word actually meant with Republicans deciding to make it a trigger word for reactionaries.
He can't just say "I don't like him because I've been told to not like him", but that's functionally what it boils down to.
In your own mind!
I am, but I'm not a fan of wokeness. I trust that you're not so dense that you can't tell the difference.
It's not that you can't define it, no.....
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you are dense.
No, it's certain that you're wrong and they're not dense.
You'd have to define it to be wrong, so take a leap rather than call people poo poo heads and run away.
Look, considering you don't know what wokeness is, I'll spell it out for you: wokeness is critical theory, which states that, among other things, inequality is inherently bad or wrong, and must be rectified. You don't need to adhere to critical theory to observe that such inequalities exist though.
You can learn more about Critical Theory here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory
Or about critical theory applied to race, commonly known as Critical Race Theory or CRT, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory
That's my serious answer, with everything you need to know. After this we can be as silly or goofy as you like.
Since your issue is with critical race theory, and you have stated in multiple comments that the problem with critical race theory is that it says inequality and hierarchy is bad, specifically when it comes to race, I guess its safe to assume you are a racist, then?
He's unabashedly a racist, consistently.
If you adhere to CRT, I'm sure you would agree, even though I'm black, since under the CRT framework, it's not about hating races, but not advocating for equality of outcomes across ethnic lines. And this is how you get stuff like "conservatism is white supremacy" and whatnot.
It's all a bit silly, but if you're down with the silliness, go ahead. Call me, a black man, racist for disagreeing with Donald Glover, a man I greatly respect.
LMFAO, do we have a c/asablackman yet? Go the fuck back to 4chan.
I promise you that you never knew anything about critical race theory before republicans told you to be afraid of it like a year ago.
Three years ago :)
It's not the same as critical theory, but it does have a crossover in concerns
Perhaps; did wokeness precede critical theory? Or did they merge at some point?
No, they are totally not related, critical theory is from the 1930s, Woke is from 2010
Fair enough. So what's the difference between wokeness and critical theory? I thought they were more or less harmonious or synonymous.
That, my dude, is something you will have to take a journey on.
Look, considering you don't know what wokeness is, I'll spell it out for you:
Look, considering you don't know what wokeness is, I'll spell it out for you:
Wait, what is woke then if it's not being aware of social inequalities?
In a quick sentence, wokeness is critical theory, in particular applied to race, known as critical race theory.
To observe inequalities is not woke; what is woke is to believe that all inequalities or power hierarchies are inherently bad.
What are some "good" inequalities?
I think a variety of levels of pay depending on job position, effort, or skill is a great example. Not all jobs are equal, so they should not all yield the same amount of pay.
Yeah, that's not what anybody means when they talk about inequalities.
Interesting, since that's textbook income inequality.
What sorts of inequalities do you think of, from the perspective of critical theory?
I sincerely hope you're trolling... Have a nice day.
Jump from a very high place.
But I don't do drugs
I highly doubt you've never tried methamphetamine. Every racist pretending to be black when they're called out for racism on the Internet is big into it at some point in their lives.
I've never tried methamphetamine, although I believe I have ADHD and I certainly wouldn't be opposed taking an amphetamine at some point in the future
Holy shit are you 12?
That sounds like a thinly veiled way of saying you're a supremacist.
How can wokeness be a specific academic concept? That doesn't make sense, CRT is CRT and it's just an academic lens. And what's wrong with it anyway? Do you just not like acknowledging that America has the deck stacked against black people and really doesn't want to change that? Why do you think it's good to suppress an academic lens like CRT? What would you prefer is taught instead of that?
But what are some examples of social inequalities that are not inherently bad? Your other examples are not social inequalities. You're looking at something like suggesting what kinds of systematic racism are good actually, not looking at things like the difference in pay between an engineer and a janitor.
You would have to provide your definition of social inequalities for me to answer, since you don't think that my examples qualify as inequalities.
Could you define "wokeness"?
"Acknowledging that people who aren't cis white males exist."
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Turn off fox news and go outside
I hate Fox News. Newsnation is where it's at if you MUST watch the mainstream media but most corporate media sucks to be honest.
What does woke mean?
Genius level comment. Anyone who says something like this really just binge watches Fox News and has no idea what words mean.