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65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

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[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

there is absolutely no valid argument to do anything that isn't simply tallying all the votes. because of course that's how it should work

It makes sense from the perspective of early America, which initially wanted a confederate system.

It doesn't make sense now that most people consider themselves American first and their state is just the place they currently live.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The EC can work but make it a contest for each electoral vote, and remove the states from the equation entirely. California being safe blue and Texas being safe red don't matter, each district is counted for one electoral vote, and the states don't get extra votes anymore.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That just seems like popular vote with extra steps. I'm not sure, but I feel like mathematically there would be no way in which the result of the EC would differ from the popular vote under such a system. I suppose it might still be possible to skew it far enough to shift the outcome using some extreme gerrymandering.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It is a popular vote with extra steps. That's literally what it is.

The extra steps mean that politicians can't purely focus on population centers, rural communities would count for the same vote. each district should be of similar population size, and every district counts for one.

[-] Kethal@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Apparently you are unaware of ranked choice voting systems, because there are certainly reasons that electing by popular vote is a bad system.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Not a fan of the EC, but this is a bad take imo.

Many democracies don't have the people directly vote on their leader. Parliamentary systems typically have the people voting for a representative who will then vote for the Prime Minister on their behalf.

Representative Democracy exists for a reason.

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