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Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely

India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.

And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.

It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.

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[-] yoz@aussie.zone 63 points 2 years ago

Its funny coz I think Modi thinks people are dying to visit India.🤣🤣 its like Taliban thinking Afghanistan is the most developed country in the world.🤣🤣🤣

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As they should, India is an amazing and very unique country

Why on Earth am I being downvoted. You guys need to leave your basement once in a while

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

Most westerners would not be able to handle India. While yes its full of rich history and culture, the state of cities would be too much for most first worlders to handle.

[-] GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago

Also, I'm definitely spending money and my PTO for what's going to be quite an unpleasant experience. There are many places that are beautiful and culture rich as well without as much unpleasantness.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't know what PTO is but you can spend it on what you want. I'm not sure what unpleasantness you mean. There's poverty for sure, especially in big cities. What didn't you like in India ? if you don't mind sharing your experience

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago
[-] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I went to Goa and Mumbai. So maybe not the densest populated places but still. I'm from Sweden. Sure the population density takes some getting used to but if you allow yourself to do that it's not like it's an alien place. Great food.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yea, you need some time to adjust,... it's obligatory. But I think roaming the cities is amazing (from the perspective of a european). One just has to agree on dropping some habits and learning new ones. Travelling, basically

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 15 points 2 years ago
[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

I am about as Indian as you are Nigerian

[-] FlowVoid@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago

I didn't downvote, but nothing is "very unique" for the same reason that nobody is "very pregnant".

Either it is unique or it is not.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I disagree.

"Very" unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

Similarly, being "very pregnant" would be at about eight months or perhaps carrying more than one child. In the present of someone that is a month pregnant, it may hardly impact their day to day living, and you can't tell.

Yes, technically the words are Boolean, but the reality makes sense.

[-] FlowVoid@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Very" unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

The term you're looking for is "very unusual".

Similarly, being "very pregnant"

LOL, ok now say to a pregnant woman, "I don't think you're very pregnant". Please report back to us with her response.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Perhaps you haven't heard or read those before, but they're very much valid (😉). The downvotes are overwhelming and can't possibly -imho- reflect disagreement over my wording. I'm pretty sure it has to do with India, but I don't know why. Is there a particular anti-India sentiment I didn't know about ?

[-] FlowVoid@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Well, there is definitely an anti-assassination sentiment.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

India is fuckin incredible, what makes you think anyone is lining up to visit Canada?

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 25 points 2 years ago
[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Students. Higher education in India is incredibly bad. Thousands of Indians pay huge sums to get into Canadian unis.

[-] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Higher education in India is incredibly bad.

Imma be level with you homie, the only Indians who leave to Canada for higher education are the ones who did not make it into the top universities in India.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world. It's a country famous for putting out doctors. Yes, there are issues with higher ed, but it's not as simple as "incredibly bad". And don't forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.

[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world.

Whose capacity is close to nothing for the population. Indian universities fall in two categories: really good ones or absolute shit ones (source: I'm an Indian). There is no middle category. To get into the really good ones, you have to either have an exceptionally good academic performance or have to be extremely rich. Universities outside India fill in the demand of this middle category. Sprinkle in some permanent emigration aspirations and you get a country with a large emigrating student population.

It’s a country famous for putting out doctors.

While it is true that this is the perception of India especially in the west, it is categorically untrue. According to the World Health Organization (2023), India ranks very low in the amount of doctors per 10,000 people relative to developed countries (by more than 300%). If you counter this by saying "this is because all Indian doctors emigrate to the said developed countries", then that would be incorrect again, as around 10% of Indian physicians emigrate and practice in the west.

And don’t forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.

I believe you are pinning "a large population" as the causal factor behind a high student emigrant population. Had this really been a causal factor, then we would've seen European and American students in Indian Universities proportional to their population (which when combined, makes up around half of India's population). The fact that we do not observe this phenomenon is evidence enough that "a large population" is not the causal factor behind this. Rather, it is the access to good education which plays a much much larger role.

[-] higgsone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There are enough incredible countries where you don’t have to worry about perverts and being raped as a woman.

[-] Anduin1357@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Come to Singapore, we have the Indian culture (among others), and we're the diametric opposite of India where it comes to safety in all aspects. 😉

[-] higgsone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Singapore is on my bucket list

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

🥰 Singapore! So diverse and friendly people.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Brother at least put some effort into it.

[-] TheBlue22 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah for real, there are few countries I never ever want to visit, India is one of them

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