69
France bans iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels: Here’s what to know
(www.washingtonpost.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 15 Sep 2023
69 points (100.0% liked)
Technology
59166 readers
1795 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Cell phones use radiation in the microwave portion of the EM spectrum. Microwave radiation is non-ionizing. The only thing microwave radiation does is heat things, which is what these regulations are meant to protect consumers from in the first place.
I hate headlines like this because they fuel harmful misinformation. How many people are gonna come away from this headline thinking their phone might give them cancer? How many of those people are going to protest against further development of wireless technology from the misinformed position that non-ionizing EM radiation (such as visible light) can somehow cause cancer?
I believe it’s not a matter of is it harmful or not ? Just that there are rules and they’re not Apple’s to change. Until governments and societies decide to change them, they must comply.
I really want to see someone fund/perform an experiment, that would hopefully put any doubts to rest. It might take 10-20 years to do but it would be worth it:
Create 2 completely shielded rooms. In one of the rooms, completely blast the inside of it with 5G, 4G, All the Gs, Wi-Fi, whatever 24/7. Every single kind of EMR that anyone has doubts of. You can even include future spectrum, whatever. Run it at 3x-5x the amplitude of anything anyone could reasonably expect to come across in the world.
Now, Using only organic and living material (mice, monkeys, plants, single-celled organisms, humans, whatever): confirm which one of them has the EMR turned on. If EMR was dangerous you should obviously see some negative effects. Take as much time as necessary to confirm your findings.
THEN maybe we can stop all this nonsense and point back to the study. Except I know some people would say "You tested 300 GHz, what about 301.5 GHz!!!! That one is totally dangerous!"
It wouldn't work for one simple reason: the people that it would attempt to convince simply wouldn't believe it. I've seen this concept brought up in terms of NASA showing a live stream of Earth to prove it's round to flearthers.
There is more than enough evidence at this point to say conclusively that non-ionizing radiation cannot cause cancer, and is only harmful to living things because it can heat them. Anyone who believes that there isn't enough evidence at this point simply hasn't read it, and anyone who thinks that the researchers are lying would think the same about this experiment.
that can be gamed like most a/b experiments. just keep measuring and adjust your metrics and time window until you get the results you want. doesn't matter if 99% of the time you would have reached the opposite conclusion.