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The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

They're easy to understand: they are privileged and insulated enough from potential Republican fuckery that if Democrats lose elections, they are mostly going to be ok. They're mostly middle class or higher with secure employment or other economic support (parents, spouse), straight (or closeted), their religious status isn't contentious, mostly they're male.

The other group I'd expect would be extremely low information voters who believe all politicians are the same and it's a Coke or Pepsi kind of thing. That's not going to be super common with anyone identifying as "progressive" due to the very politicized nature of that term, though.

[-] snipgan@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I already lost Roe v Wade cause "progressives" cutting off their nose in spite.

Even if Hilary lost, that was no excuse to let Republicans take over the senate or elsewhere. Which they did.

Even back in my more "libertarian" days I still voted for Hilary cause what I knew could happen. And it did happen.

Edit: Turns out Bernie/Progressive voters really did come out a lot for Hilary, which lead to the popular vote wins. I was wrong. Sorry.

[-] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, except Bernie's supporters voted for Hillary at higher rates than Hillary folks voted for Obama, so maybe Hillary, her dumb fucking insecure email server, her lack of personality, and the DNC who helped her cheat her way through primary debates are the real ones to blame, not the progressives. She was a terrible candidate who the right hated and independents didn't like much better and she proved she was a terrible candidate by losing to the worst Republican candidate in the last hundred years. She had all the help she should've needed from progressives.

[-] snipgan@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Looking into it more, it appears you are likely right. Was probably the echo chamber I was in while I was younger telling me otherwise. Seeing a lot of "Bernie Bros" and the like saying they wouldn't.

I apologize.

End of Blame Game: Sanders (and His Supporters) Helped Hillary Win Popular Vote in 2016

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