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[-] read_deleuze@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago

I'm deeply sorry that we don't like supporting the oppression of marginalized groups here

[-] rk96@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago

Yes, as if communism doesnt support opressing literally everyone, you western "communists" are really special aren't ya?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

How do you oppress everyone in an economic model focused on worker enfranchisement?

...or do you not know what communism means and just belive China, the USSR and DPRK when they say they're communist?

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Sooo there aren't any examples of communism working but it totally is going to when done right! I could counter with "if capitalism was done right nobody would be oppressed and everyone would want for nothing".

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This really isn't difficult stuff.

Communism is based on worker enfranchisement and abolition of the commodity form. Where is the inherent incentive for autocracy, and what examples would you care to cite?

Capitalism, on the other hand, naturally favours monopoly thanks to factors including economic power acting as political power, first mover advantage, and economies of scale. Capitalism has no inherent need to even be democratic. Your democracy is polluted by economic influence, your workplace is autocratic. What is there to get right that stops any of this?

... But more importantly, how do you oppress everyone in an economic model focused on worker enfranchisement?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

There aren't any examples of Free Market working either, THB.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Free market doesn't equate to capitalism. There are countless working capitalistic societies and none communist ones.

[-] read_deleuze@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Love how you just assume I'm from the west. I'm eastern european, my family is also, and we lived through everything - and I've yet to meet someone other than western investors and young kids who thinks things are good/better now

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