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ITT: "It's ok when we do it."
Of course it's okay we sanction human rights abusers. Europe does it, too. Am I supposed to disagree with another country's sanctions or something?
Human rights abusers when they aren't our allies. US has been pretty chill with Saudi Arabia and they literally dismembered someone on foreign soil because they vocally opposed the tyrannical regime.
Saying there should be harsher treatment of SA doesn't make the sanctions against China any less justified.
Saudi Arabia is allies only with our Republican governments. They have been and are going to keep effectively sanctioning us by raising the price of oil before our next election.
This but unironically.
Remember Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction?
Yes. Also that has no relevance here.
Are you suggesting the Iranian government is not a hell state that deserves sanctions?
Plenty of hell states deserve sanctions, including the US. Being a hell state isn't a criterion for sanctions. You're just parroting US propaganda which pretends human rights are why it applies sanctions when in reality that is the last thing on their mind.
So you agree they deserve sanctions and this is a good thing.
Why are you arguing?
I said "Being a hell state isn’t a criterion for sanctions." Sanctions don't work the way you think they do. They don't actually punish the people who make hell states the hell states that they are. If they did, then the hell state that would be among those that deserve it the most would be the USA. Do you agree with this?
No, but whether or not I agree the US should be sanctioned is not relevant here.
Cool, because being a "hell state" is not relevant for sanctions.
Iran's government is the reason we sanctioned Iran.
Yeah, because they reclaimed the oil instead of handing it over to western companies.
I like you. Remind me to never argue with you.
No, because they're a totalitarian islamic nightmare.
So is Saudi Arabia
Yeah I'm all for destabilizing them too. Let's do it in lieu of carbon taxes since it will have the same net result for the average American.
I am most definitely pro-intervention. Freedom is non-negotiable, and free countries have a moral imperative to spread liberal democracy across the planet. The strong have an obligation to protect the weak.
This is your brain on american propaganda.
This is your brain on "being a good person."
"In addition, pursuant to a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) and a seizure warrant issued by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Empire Navigation, the operating company of the vessel carrying the contraband cargo, agreed to cooperate and transport the Iranian oil to the United States – an operation which has now concluded."
Is playing fast and loose with the facts also okay when you do it?