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It feels like anything is mowed down on the internet. I've been a dev for a long time too, and I never feel sure when I chose a stack for a new toy project (in my day job I rarely get to chose, so that's a non issue there)

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[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

And don't forget, that much of what people criticize isn't the language per se, but the community/ecosystem around it.

NPM is objectively bad, but Javascript is by no means coupled to it.

Java projects are often very "verbose", but that's a choice by the developer of the libraries and apps, not so much Java itself.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Ecosystems matter, though. In fact, I think they're the hardest part to learn for most languages.

You can try to get away from NPM, but you'll always run across instructions on how to do a thing in NPM. Do it any other way, and you're on your own.

You can try to write Java in a less verbose way, but the standard library will fight you before we even talk about third party libs.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I never argued, that they don't matter.

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