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[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 113 points 2 years ago

Apple could potentially force users to use a proprietary apple USB c charger instead of any random one. This can be done via a lockout chip inside of the cable itself that only apple produces and is already done on apples lightning cable (super cheap sketchy cables may not charge or have features missing).

Additionally the USB c port on iPhones will only run on USB 2.0 speeds, a standard from the year 2000 (yes, 23 years ago).

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

I don't expect them to do that, much too easy to get slapped down on by the EU. I do expect that non-Apple/MFI chargers are USB 2.0, and I do expect are limited to slow charging and might come with a nasty-gram in the OS when using one. I lean against the nasty-gram as you can use some shit-ass lightning cables and iOS doesn't generally care, but the other two I would say are near certain. What will be real fucky is if they don't have a faster data transfer speed at all.

[-] littlecolt@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

USB 3.0 and 3.1 are jank and produce RFI, so using 2.0 is an excellent idea. USB 3.1 could cause interference with Bluetooth.

Edit: I literally work with this stuff for a living, but downvote me... It's fine.

[-] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Thanks for providing the first somewhat reasonable argument that Apple could make in support of that design choice, other than cost cutting. What about USB 3.2 and 4? Also does USB 2 not produce any rfi?

I looked into it further, and couldn't get much info. It seems the USB organization is one of the main places for information on this potential issue, and their conclusion is;

"Improving the shielding on the USB 3.0 receptacle connector can help reduce the amount of noise radiated due to USB 3.0 signaling. In addition, shielding of the USB 3.0 peripheral device plays an important role in reducing the amount of noise radiated in the 2.4–2.5 GHz range. This is particularly critical for peripheral devices that are placed close to the PC platform, such as a flash drive. Placement of the wireless antenna should also be carefully considered on a platform and be located as far away as possible from a USB 3.0 connector and/or device."

Which makes sense to me. And Apple, the most profitable tech company in the world, seems to be best equipped to figure out how to shield their devices components to minimize or eliminate that issue.

[-] dyerat@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago

Every other manufacturer has found a way to make it work

[-] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 15 points 2 years ago

Wow, what shitheads.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

What if i told you Im pretty sure most of your usb devices run on those “23 year old” speeds?

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Most of my USB devices isn't a $1000+ brand new handheld computer though.

[-] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

not the storage ones...

[-] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Sure, I expect it if I buy a cheap USB device. But if I'm paying hundreds of dollars for the device that I use daily? Having even slightly more modern speeds is a requirement for me

[-] executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

You'd be wrong

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