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[-] regul@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Explain why any of that is the US's problem or necessitates a response from the US at all.

[-] RustledTeapot@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago

Morally, we made a commitment to preserve democracy and we keep our word.

Geopolitically, microchips.

[-] nicktron@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago
[-] andyburke@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

"The West" is essentially the group of nations attempting to abide by a moral code. It is not always, or maybe even often, successful, but there is a vast gulf between their morality-based approach and what China, Russia, DPRK, and other fascist/semi-fascist nations are doing.

[-] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nah the west pulls plenty of shady, awful crap but that's just a reason for the west (and everybody else) to try to be better - it shouldn't be used as an excuse for other countries doing evil shit.

[-] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It's amazing anyone can believe they are well informed and unironically say this bullshit

[-] regul@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Well the moral argument is obviously false on its face.

But the microchips argument is also bizarre. Taiwan isn't the only country that makes microchips. In fact the US has been spending large amounts of money to stand up domestic chip manufacturing. And China is also the leading global supplier of plenty of other commodities. Why is it that only matters for microchips?

[-] pressanykeynow@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 2 years ago

we made a commitment to preserve democracy

Huh, when did you make such a commitment? Sometime in between of toppling democratic governments, installing dictators around the world and invading sovereign nations?

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

The well-being of the world should be everyone's problem. It's just that with the largest economy and comparative power in the world, the US has a greater responsibility than most. Queue the Spiderman quote.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

This role of "world police" has not paid off for the US for the last 50+ years we've been doing it.

[-] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

Idk their economy definitely has benefitted from stuff like international shipping (which their "world police" have been essential in protecting) it's just that they allow their oligarchs to seize most of the profits. Their government definitely didn't take up the role out of the good of their hearts!

[-] regul@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I don't think international shipping was under much threat from Iraq or Afghanistan.

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