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[-] uberrice@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

Antifascism isn't fascism, but Antifa, in a lot of public outings (where presumably only a minority of people go) behaves very fascist.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"behaves very fascist"

Yeah those evil protestors doing violence, waving American flags, demanding strict social hierarchies, with ultra-right-wing views

/s

[-] uberrice@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Im talking about Europe. Where I'm from. Not everyone is american.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

And your claim is still a big fat lie.

[-] uberrice@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

Reasons why I think Antifa is fascist:

  1. they paint people they don't like as 'Nazis' - just like right wing fascists like to paint everyone they don't like as a 'jew'
  2. they endorse violence against these 'Nazis'
  3. they self-radicalize by echo-chambering, removing themselves farther and farther from the "real world"

Do you not agree with these statements?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Are they also ultra-nationalist, ultra-right-wing, and in favor of strict social hierarchies? There's more to fascism than just being mean to people you don't like

[-] uberrice@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

According to Britannica:

Fascism : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

While what I described is not centrally controlled by a dictator (and anyone claiming that Antifa was centrally controlled is a nutcase, I agree), the way Antifa as a collective behaves does try to "control the lives of people, not allowing them to disagree with them" - at least in my opinion. You're free to have your own.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Ok but that's not fascism

Like, according to your own definition that you linked, and your own opinion of the control structure of Antifa, they don't match up

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Antifa literally just means antifascism. If you are an antifascist you are antifa.

[-] uberrice@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

No. Antifa is the Antifaschistische Aktion. It's an organization that exists, although rather loosely organized.

I don't know about your American weird ass bullshit, but that is the actual true Antifa.

[-] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

There are many organizations under that label, they usually are not organized between each other at all and have very different philosophies of what and how they want to do.

There is no AntiFa e.V.

[-] uberrice@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

There's also no Nazi e. V. - yet for some reason Antifa groups like to label everyone not agreeing with them as a nazi.

[-] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago
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