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Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up' (www.reuters.com)

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[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you’re remembering incorrectly bro… After 9/11, if you didn’t support invading any vaguely Muslim country you were a traitor. Fucking libs on TV were cheering for killing Saddam and invading Iraq, dismissing any attempts to question why would that even make sense as weak-spined traitorous behaviour.

Also, how can you say that while you support a never ending war in Ukraine?

Is Russia imperialist? Yes. Is this invasion a tragedy? Yes. Did it happen, and will continue to happen for a long time in good part because of the US? Fuck yes as well.

I don’t support Russia invading or winning the war. I don’t support NATO breaking its promises and meddling in Eastern Europe propping up Nazis.

The US Empire is directly responsible for Putin, in the first place. And it’s now directly responsible for the extreme right in Ukraine.

What anyone who’s actually against war wants is for the US Empire to fall and NATO to be dismantled. For Putin to fall and the Russian people to have freedom again. For the Nazis in Ukraine to not have power anymore.

If you support sending billions in weapons to Ukraine (as fucking debt, Ukraine will be in debt to the US and Europe for centuries…), if you support war games in South Korea, Taiwan, if you complained when Biden left Afghanistan… you’re literally a war hawk.

[-] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

You blathering fool. I'm not your bro and never will be.

When you see a school bully who fights a smaller kid who doesn't want to give up his lunch money, what do you do? You are the kind of person shouting at the victim to comply to avoid any further bloodshed, right? You're fucking filth. I think I even watched a Star Trek episode about your fucking kind, lol.

Just for your information: NATO has nothing to do with this. Other than being a scapegoat of course. Quite the opposite, if Ukraine was part of NATO, this war would never happened. Why do you think Poland and the Chech Rebublic were so eager to join it? NATO is a defense pact. But I know, people like you don't care. NATO is the big boogie man you need to justify your political views.

And no, I don't remember incorrectly. The Bush regime was republican. They faked evidence to attack Iraq. The were huge demonstations and turmoil Google the Dixie Chicks, listen to American Idiot. I'm not american. I'm german. We were one of the countries who were part of a so called "axis of evil" because we didn't agree with the war. Shut the fuck up.

I was always pretty left leaning. Never liked US-Imperialism since I got 16 and realised Tom Clancy Novels were pretty one-sided. But if supporting ukraine means I'm a Hawk, so be it. All I know is, I don't want to be on your side!

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We were one of the countries who were part of a so called “axis of evil”

Slight correction, no, they didn't go that far. We're "Old Europe".

It was also when they renamed French Fries to Freedom Fries to protest the French being, well, French, as if the French wouldn't already be constantly doing that. (Meanwhile Belgium was hoping someone would notice them).

[-] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the correction. And yes, I remember the freedom fries, lol! Poor Belgium.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Your comment truly reeks of “I’m pretty left leaning” lmao

[-] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Lol. What a pathetic comment. Are you trying to imply it’s “left“ to sit back and let imperialistic dictators invade other countries?

You said it yourself. Putins war is imperialistic. Wow, if we had only a thing that would defer imperialistic Russia from attacking its neighbours. Oh, we have! NATO!

And your comments reeks of dying braincells.