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[-] polyploy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 1 year ago

This is going to backfire in a big way. Whole lot of people seem to think this will be justice porn or somehow convince his base of his criminality but it is going to do no such thing. According to one poll, the majority (77%) of likely GOP primary voters are already convinced the trial is "politically motivated", with only 8% more concerned about him attempting to overturn an election. You can take a look at some polling here, there are other even more troublesome results as well: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll-indictments-2023-08-20/

No matter how awful, contradictory, and ridiculous he will be in that court room, this is likely going to be a massive boon for Trump, and his followers are going to see it as the realization of their own fears of persecution. This man is an ascendant fascist leader, not the sad sack finally facing consequences that liberals so desperately want him to be, and the effect this will have on mobilizing his base to continue to escalate will be immense. These people do not give a single fuck about """law and order""" no matter how much they pretend they do, stop assuming they will just accept things when he is found guilty. They won't.

I'm just trying to help people realize how dangerous and precarious this whole situation is. People were laughing and making jokes when he first announced his candidacy, and kept on doing it right up to the point that he won the election. Don't make the same mistake again, because while yall are cracking jokes, him and his ghouls are hurting people. They are passing discriminatory laws, they are in the supreme court setting dangerous precedents and overturning inconvenient ones, and they are patrolling the streets looking for people to brutalize and throw in jail. They are committing hate crimes and becoming increasingly radicalized and mobilized.

Stop pretending this is entertainment or business as usual, it's not. I'm begging you to understand that the fascists are already here, and the longer they're underestimated the better their chances of seizing control.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is going to backfire.

First of all, never try to get inside a conservative's head if you are going to come out with a loser defeatism attitude. 2nd, Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump will not have any control of the trial at all.

of likely GOP primary voters are already convinced the trial is "politically motivated"

That is the most important reason why the trial needs to be televised.

Stop pretending this is entertainment or business as usual, it's not.

Another reason why it is absolutely critical to have the trial televised. I can remember the Watergate TV hearings and the entire country was riveted by the seriousness of the proceedings. The Jan 6 House committee televised hearing were also riveting for everybody who watched them in full. It will be like that only with everyone watching. The very reason for televising the proceedings is so that everybody understands the seriousness.

[-] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

Remember that Onion headline "man would die fighting to defend what he imagines the Constitution to be"?

Many modern conservatives are like that. They will bleat all day about laws, and yet have never spent 2 minutes even reading a Wikipedia page about them.

They'll believe whatever pundits tell them to believe.

Witch hunt? Unconstitutional? Politically motivated? Kangaroo court?

Not for one minute will any of those law and order loving, institution-protecting, facts not feelings, crowd consider that Trump is there because of real actual crimes he really did commit.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Criminal trials are different tho. Especially when news agencies are doing nightly breakdowns of how bad this really is. Fox can only cover up so much...

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've said it before, religion primes people to believe stupid shit, as long as it's delivered with conviction.

Talking snake? No problem! Waking on water? You betchya! Kangaroo court? Don't mind if I do!

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