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[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

How can they actually get jurors for this?

If the facts require the jurors to convict, there is no chance that this won't ruin their lives (if not significantly shorten them). Even before then, it's going to be a problem. His supporters have already declared and demonstrated that they are willing to use violence.

Thank you, but I'd sit in jail as long as necessary to not be on any of these juries.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 29 points 1 year ago

How do you even find an impartial jury? I might be wrong but I was almost certain that an impartial jury is required to convict, which is why they always ask you about potential conflicts of interest when you attend jury duty. How many impartial jurors can there be at this point? Tbh, I'm not even sure I would trust an impartial jury with this case. To me, if you're claiming to be impartial then you're either lying, or you give zero fucks about politics and the people around you. Being impartial in this context has some really concerning implications about you.

[-] MorrisonMotel6@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Am I biased? Fucking absolutely and I hope he's found guilty.

Can I set aside my bias and only consider the evidence as presented? Also fucking absolutely.

There are plenty of people who care enough about the rule of law that would let a man they hate walk free. If you can't, perhaps you should be more concerned with yourself than the implications you ascribe to others who don't deserve it.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

My concern is that there's a certain type of person who would have zero issues with lying about how impartial they are. Here's a hint, they're not like us.

[-] Entropywins@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

I loath trump... but if I was on the jury I would do my job and set aside my personal feelings and listen to the evidence presented by both side and make a decision within the confines of the law... if the prosecution gave charges they couldn't fully prove or over reached I hate to say it I'd have to find him not guilty even though I know morally he fucked up but it's the states job to have competent prosecutors that do their job well. I truly hope the prosecution does a stellar job and gets a conviction and I hope those in the jury take it seriously and set aside personal feelings and listen to the facts.

[-] randomaccount43543@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Being impartial doesn’t mean that you are midway between prosecution and defendant.

Impartial means that you will take the facts presented to you at face value and derive logical conclusions from those facts.

[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You raise a very good point. I think they should be able to use "innominate jury" (anonymous jury) so that the public and the defendants are not able to know who they are. I don't know how common it is in RICO cases but it wouldn't supprise me if this will be used in these cases.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Good luck keeping it that way.

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