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Russians Are Strangely Stumped About Why Moscow Is Getting Bombed
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Honestly I hate the way this article is written, like yeah, let's dunk on some random Russian citizens for complaining when things are worse in Ukraine. As if they have some kind of say in what Putin and his cronies are up to. I'm not against the Ukrainian drone attacks, but we need to stop with this general anti-Russian sentiment.
Let us know when Russia stops committing war crimes and gets the fuck out of Ukraine. Until then, STFU.
And returns all the people it stole, and all the POWs.
And rebuilds all the stuff it wrecked, and pays reparations for all the people it killed
Whether you like it or not people are going to carry resentment towards the Russians, as it's their government that is over in Ukraine literally committing war crimes.
It's the irony of Russians complaining when Ukraine does even an iota of punching back that frustrates people.
Russians are probably the ones behind the drones. Either anti-war/anti-Putin Russians, or false-flag attacks by the government on its citizens. It's unlikely the drones flew all the way from Ukraine.
By framing it as an attack on Moscow instead of the result of Russia invading Ukraine, they have shown they are complicit. Fuck 'em.
What you should have said was nothing.
Umm, no. Fuck Russia.
Yeah everyone in the world has to deal with Putin the poisoner... except the Russian people. We can't possibly expect the Russian people to deal with that shithead. Nope, it's Putin is the responsibility of everyone in the world other the the people of Russia!
If Russians don't like anti-Russian sentiment then they can start doing something about the guy that's in their Kremlin that's fucking everything up for everyone else.
Lol, let the xenophobia flow through your down votes. This is what you get for having a normal take. Americans love to hate other populations based on what their corrupt governments do. Ignorance is life here.
We are not all American, and I will not stand for that level of insult.
"Normal take" my ass.
Just owning up to being a piece of shit lmao
You can be against Russia and the war on Ukraine and still realize that the majority of Russian citizens didn't ask for this and don't want it.
It's the same thing as hating all Americans when they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan (and then overstayed by a decade and a half).
But nuance is a little too much to ask for right? Just need to be on the hate train 24/7.
Can you please understand that my issue is when you and every other American make everything and everyone around you an American. Get out of here with your whataboutizums and assuming you have a say on who I dislike.
It is ironic that you are the one making ignorant and bigoted generalisations, especially when you categorise everyone here as Americans. Which we definitely aren't.
America had its turn when it invaded Iraq. Americans started wearing Canadian patches when traveling aboard. Iraq wasn't as bad as Ukrane. American turned on support for the war after 2 years. Russia has an election coming up. They should use it - even if it is rigged.
I hate to be a Russian whataboutist but the American record of antiwar protest isn't stellar either. Imo the closer comparison is Vietnam, that was the last one where we were forced to draft people. And it did result in significant protests from multiple groups (incomparable to Iraq imo. What exactly did the Iraq protests 2 years in accomplish, again?)
The vietnam protests were actively suppressed by intelligence services and ultimately followed in the 80s by a wave of reactionary public sentiment that set the tone for republican politics even to this day (and we can all see how well that's going).