Scottish independence and progressivism (www.thenational.scot)

submitted 1 year ago by julietOscarEcho@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

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Any Scottish users on board yet? I'm curious to discuss Scottish issues but maybe setting out my stall on a UK instance and community already poisons the conversation!

Anyway my question is whether the link between left leaning and progressive politics and Scottish independence can persist. My YES voting friends and relatives see indy as a way to see meaningful policy change because Westminster has failed to deliver progressive governments (not clear exactly how they square away the Corbyn near miss but assume here they view Blair/Starmer as "red tory"). But elsewhere in the west nationalism is closely tied to right wing economics and regressive social policy. With the rise of the Alba party are we seeing cracks in this leftist perception of indy or will it die down?

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[-] julietOscarEcho@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I can't agree that revolution is the only possibility for change. The Corbyn platform included lords reform and they were seriously contending a GE. Totally agree with your diagnosis of the problem with Westminster though.

[-] Blake@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

If anything, the whole chain of events around Corbyn assured me completely and utterly of the fact that revolution is the only way forward.

Here was an honest and trustworthy politician with years of experience and many dedicated supporters, with very popular policies (polling showed that people supported the policies) in opposition to one of the least popular governments at the time.

If it was possible for change to happen, that’s when it would have happened.

Instead, he was torn down and sabotaged by his own party and subjected to outrageous propaganda in the press.

Wake up. Democracy is a smokescreen for the ruling class. The outcome of our elections are determined before the first vote is cast.

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