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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by chalkman@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

"personally I would like to keep up to date on the shit they post"

The shit they post is the gateway to worse things for some. You're still free to go check what's going on over there, it doesn't mean they should have access to our space.

[-] god@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

gateway to worse things for some

so you're basically saying "there's nothing wrong with this, but let's ban it anyway because it may be a little wrong in the future"?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Where did I say there's nothing wrong with what they say?

In the OP you've got the perfect example: "I'm not racist but I can point to BLM and criticize it..." that's exactly how you plant the seed that leads some people to racism, with that "but".

I'll share it again and again: https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g

Communities keep deciding not to react to alt-right users until it's too late to get rid of them.

[-] god@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

..... are you saying you can't criticize BLM?

also that yt link lol

i probably already watched it but will again cuz i remember liking it.

upon rewatching a few minutes of it, i can see there's a few fallacies here and there but doens't mean it's wrong.

final edit: wow does he make a shitfuckton of assumptions to just say "if we allow jordan peterson to have a youtube channel we're killing poor black people"

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

No, I'm saying that it's exactly the way the alt-right opens doors to more extreme opinions. "I don't think X but...". They keep moving the window of what is and isn't acceptable this way.

Let them participate here and that's exactly what they'll keep doing until the problem is too major to control because they've taken over (see /r/Canada even before /r/metacanada was banned) or a mod puts their big pants on and say enough is enough and bans their instance, but then you're still stuck with all the users that got converted.

[-] god@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I see. Maybe I'm biased because the very few times I've seen them posting here I found them to be pretty funny and liked their presence. Their tactless way of having fun is somewhat endearing in a sense. I'm their polar opposite in terms of political ideology and completely disagree with all of their political points but that doesn't make it not fun to see them hopping around being little nodes of comedic angst.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's already started:

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/287275

Extremists are very good at "just making jokes" and "just asking questions" and maybe to you that's what they're doing, but doing the joke opens the door to "just talk about X for real though" and suddenly people are arguing and you'll have some regular people that will start believing there might be some truth to what the extremists are saying and the spiral begins. They might never reach the deep end, they'll take what they're open to. Someone single and insecure might just adhere to the incel stuff and not the racism, someone who just lost their job when a black person got to keep theirs might adhere to the racism but not to the anti-women stuff...

[-] Snowpix@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago

"JAQing off", as I've seen it be referred to. It's always in bad faith.

[-] god@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

also the long post on the op is incompatible with my adhd and i have been unable to read it the multiple times i've opened it lol. wallatext

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