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[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

We pay kids less than adults because I’m guessing kids are more prone to mistakes, need more training, and are capable of less.

[-] Phoebe@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago

We give kids less money because companies exploid them. Kids don't know their rights and adulds are telling them their not worthy of something like human rights. In most countries childlabor is illegal cause companies will abuse every person that can't defent themself.

Mistakes are part of a normal human being but work tells us we need to fit, so the big tech giant don't lose dome of their money.

[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Christ, get off your wank horse. In Australia (which is not in America if you check your map) kids can legally work here from 14.75 years and they earn increasing wages each year until they are 18, where they receive adult wages.

It’s not unfair or exploitation, as kids that age enter into low responsibility or apprentice roles and we have laws protecting their hours and employment once they reach adulthood so they can’t be replaced with younger kids. I did it it and all my mates did it, and were grateful to gain employment.

It’s an incentivised system to ensure youth gain employment and work experience before finishing school which bolsters their resume.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

The principle of minimum wage is that no matter what work you do you're guaranteed to make that as a minimum. If kids weren't there to do these tasks because they weren't allowed to work, then older people paid at least the minimum wage would be doing them. I can also guarantee you that there are adults getting paid a lot more to do a lot less than these kids are, so your "low responsibility and apprentice role" excuse is just crap.

You're defending the system exploiting kids, I hope you realise that.

[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Am I talking to ChatGPT right now? I really hope so otherwise I’m talking to some idiotic people.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Who's the idiot exactly? The person saying child exploitation must end or the person defending it?

🤔

[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Look up the definition of child labour. You’re arguing a point you don’t even understand.

It is child labour IF:

• The child is under the age of 11.

• It deprives the child of their childhood.

• It interferes with education of ability to attend school.

• It causes moral, physical, or emotional harm.

None of these things are breached by any country adhering to the child labour treaty applied by the U.N, which SANCTIONS children working before they are adults but no younger than 11.

Honestly, I’m done with you. You’re too stupid to talk to. Go and read your Bible or draw anime or whatever people like you do on a weekend.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"It is child labour IF:

• The child is under the age of 11.

• It deprives the child of their childhood.

• It interferes with education of ability to attend school.

• It causes moral, physical, or emotional harm."

Funny because you're the one who mentioned ILO and then you made up a definition that doesn't match theirs. But I guess I'm the one who's stupid 🤔

https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---asia/---ro-bangkok/---ilo-yangon/documents/publication/wcms_531953.pdf

https://www.ilo.org/ipec/facts/lang--en/index.htm

https://www.ilo.org/moscow/areas-of-work/child-labour/WCMS_249004/lang--en/index.htm

No mention of age anywhere.

Working 20h/week is harmful to schooling:

https://www.washington.edu/news/2011/02/09/working-more-than-20-hours-a-week-in-high-school-can-harm-grades-uw-researcher-finds/#:~:text=But%20students%20who%20began%20working,to%20their%20non%2Dworking%20peers.

I know, it's hard to admit that we're wrong 😟 It's also very funny how you didn't answer to the reply with a bunch of links that contradict you...

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If the place where you live allows employers to hire kids AND to do it at lower than minimum wage, then the issue is that, it's not a justification.

[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fuck, you need to travel outside Kentucky bro. Almost every country on the planet has a youth employment system.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Almost every country on the planet have no labor laws if you want to use that as an argument.

[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Hahaha, that’s definitely a sentence!

I guess the U.N just turns a blind eye on human rights… err… everywhere?

You’re adorable. Say something else!!!

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

The UN? You realise they have no real authority? There's nearly 200 countries in the world, the majority are third world countries.

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