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[-] wols@lemmy.ml 122 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Beehaw "moderators" don't have an issue with their user base checking out other communities. As is clearly obvious from the fact that they aren't defederated from all other instances.

They do have an issue with droves of unvetted users from other instances trolling and harassing their community though. And the most effective way to deal with that currently is to defederate from the instances that the majority of those bad-faith users are coming from. The unfortunate (and unintentional) side effect is that Beehaw users won't be able to interact with any of the users from those instances.

This is a situation born out of a combination of

  • lack of manpower and moderation tools
  • gaps in the configuration of inter-instance interactions
  • the way the internet works

You can disagree with this decision and users are free to switch, but this meme is a poor caricature of the actual effects of Beehaw's actions and (at least in my estimation) of their intentions.

The decision to defederate is less of an attack or an indictment against the other instances and more of a practical necessity for them to protect their community.

If the user base of the lemmy verse keeps growing I wouldn't be surprised if either

  • more granular control over the way instances interact with each other is implemented and the restrictions are softened or
  • the amount of spammers and trolls reaches a level that forces more instances to vet their users and the defederation is lifted entirely or
  • more powerful moderation tools show up and in combination with a greater number of people moderating makes the pre-screening of users unnecessary
[-] asclepias@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

I saw a wave of the harassing spam they were getting right before they defederated. One was a meme about lynching drag performers. Another was a picture of an erection that was posted in what looked like every feminist and trans friendly space, asking if it was bigger than the ones owned by the denizens of the communities. I'm sure it was just a small fraction of what they were dealing with as more shitty little hatemongers find their way to Lemmy, but I happened to catch it by sorting by new at exactly the wrong time. I can't blame the Beehaw mods for not wanting to deal with the psychological toll that comes with manually moderating that kind of content.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I saw dick-pic spam.

There's a lot of words we can use, but its a lot faster to just say they got harassed by the whole slew of NSFW-spam, porn-spam, harassers and such.

[-] asclepias@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Sure, but a lot of users here are minimizing how bad it was, so I wanted to be specific about how explicitly hateful it was.

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