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Dealbreaker or no? (lemmy.world)

(inspired by friends' dating app woes)

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[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

That's a day negative 10 deal breaker. I can be casual friends with a "witch", but being in a relationship means I have to pretend I believe that stuff, and no one can keep up an act that long.

It's as fake as any religion. I mean it is kinda one, I think. I have very little awareness of it, I'm pretty sure witches and wiccans are different, but it's all beyond baloney, so I don't really care about the subtleties.

[-] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

I mean... You don't have to believe someone else's beliefs to be in a relationship with them. It happens all the time. I work with a "witch" and she's like every other normal religious person. Wears a necklace, has a thing on her door, goes to work...

[-] stergro@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

You don't have to pretend anything, I know quite a few couples where one partner is an atheist and the other one is a believer.

[-] Harrison@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

But how can you respect someone who legitimately believes in magic?

[-] akariii 5 points 1 year ago

they're also human

[-] stergro@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Love is a chemical process, you can't really choose who you fall in love with. There are all kind of relationships, not all are based on respect.

[-] Harrison@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago

Attraction is a chemical process, long term relationships without respect are doomed to failure

[-] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES 1 points 1 year ago

Don't forget that believing in a reality beyond the senses is a religion too. All atheists are solipsists.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I am an atheist and I am not solipsistic, therefore not all atheists are solipsistic.

[-] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES 1 points 1 year ago

I don't believe you're an atheist, because you believe in reality. That's religious thinking.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

If you want to believe that belief in external reality to your senses requires a similar leap of faith that belief in unprovably extant supreme beings requires that's fine, but that's not what the word atheist means. That's not how people use it. They don't use it to refer to people who refuse to believe in things requiring faith (as in believing in something that can't be proven). It is used to refer to people who don't believe in gods.

[-] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES 1 points 1 year ago

Reality is god to realists. That's what they believe in. They worship it, they obey it, they demand others have the same respect for it. It's theism.

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This is so untrue it hurt my brain to read that. Realists and atheists aren't the same thing, first of all. There is some overlap for sure, but they're not equal.

Secondly, you apparently have zero clue what the word "worship" means. I get the point you're trying to make though.

"Obey" seems to be another word you struggle with.

And demanding people recognize reality is pretty fair. We don't demand you to believe it not believe anything one way or the other about supernatural issues, but while we may have different ideas about what reality is, we can say that everybody's existence does have some things in common and I think it's fair to presume any sane, competent person can agree on that much.

Theism is a pretty specific term, implying a belief specifically in (a) supernatural being(s) of some sort. Having a belief of any kind about anything is not tantamount to being theistic.

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