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What use to be the PPA that allowed Ubuntu users to use native .deb packages for Firefox has recently changed to the same meta package that forces installation of Snap and the Firefox snap package.

I am having to remove the meta package, then re-uninstall the snap firefox, then re-uninstall Snap, then install pin the latest build I could get (firefox_116.0.3+build2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1_arm64.deb) to keep the native firefox build.

I'm so done with Ubuntu.

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[-] Hominine@lemonine.hominine.xyz 38 points 1 year ago

What I don't get is why. What with the recent Red Hat debacle one would think Canonical would make a stronger case as opposed to force feeding the issue.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 44 points 1 year ago

Because it’s canonical’s thing they’re marketing to server markets

[-] garam@lemmy.my.id 7 points 1 year ago

haha.. ubuntu on enterprise doesn't even touch 5% of the market, where 90% of it is RHEL and 5% another is Windows Server and some OSX.. so... I don't think canonical is dumb enough

*please read, enterprise market, not hobbyist. Hobbyist doesn't make money for ubuntu. Well if the hobbyist is a decision maker in enterprise, they probably will have effect, but the problem is, most of them opt in RHEL/Clones

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

You got any data to back that up?

[-] garam@lemmy.my.id 2 points 1 year ago

You can look into fortune 500 report on Server stack, and self published red hat report. Red Hat claims is higher, but I will say, it should be at max 90%, not 95% as Red Hat Claims.

https://fortune.com/2013/05/06/how-linux-conquered-the-fortune-500/#:~:text=Today%20more%20than%2090%25%20of%20the%20Fortune%20500,Hat%2C%20the%20largest%20vendor%20of%20Linux%20support%20services.

https://www.redhat.com/en/about/company

Seems they revise it. hem... the fly-er I got for Red Hat academy promotion written is 95% in 2019.. strange..

But anyway, you can see anywhere, on any business medium high, mostly use Linux.

Azure, 100% backed by Red Hat in their Infra, even Microsoft doesn't deny or agree with it. AWS 100% EL based (old times RHEL, nowdays Fedora), Linode, Scaleway, Contabo, Hetzner, BiznetGio, Aliyun (even their Aliyun/Alibaba Linux is RHEL), OVH, etc. so I will say it's high enough.... that almost entire infrastructure rely on Red Hat Engineering. At least if Red Hat gone, CentOS Stream code still there, Fedora Code still there. The community can continue to develop it.

Ubuntu only popular and first class only on Digital Ocean. No other cloud providers make ubuntu first class other than DO. Sure enough Ubuntu/Debian is there, you can install it, but, it's not entirely first class as RHEL/Clones

Hate it or love it. Red Hat still the king of mission critical system except in Europe, where SUSE is leading, but SUSE itself is well... have same or near identical to Red Hat.. so... welp.. kind like in same EL boat.

Some will say data like this https://www.enterpriseappstoday.com/stats/linux-statistics.html#The_Most_Popular_Linux_Distribution is more re presentable for general mass, but I don't think it's for enterprises...

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