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US citizens urged to leave Belarus immediately
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They also have nukes. This is fucking terrifying.
I have nuke fatigue. I can't be bothered to be afraid of them. Go ahead and throw them, whoever was brazen enough to do so will have their country wiped from the face of the earth faster than you can say "Enola Gay". There's no one self-destructive enough to seriously consider pushing that button.
And even if there was, it's not like I'm going to change their mind. Just sit back and enjoy the mushroom clouds.
Me as a GenX looking over at you.... "First time?"
Boomers got you beat for sure, anyone that lived through the cold war.
I also suspect many people don't truly appreciate just how devastating a nuke is - in the sense that hearing "blah blah destruction, mushroom cloud" a hundred times over seems to numb people to the concept. I did a deep dive into nuclear blast videos some time ago, just watching how destructive they are really made me realize I was one of these people who knew, but didn't really "know"
I spent more than 20 years living with the Cold War. I grew up next to Strategic Air Command, did the C.A.P. thing in the '80s, then did further NBC training as I got older. I've been on bases and in bunkers all over the place, including the one that Bush Jr hunkered in on 9/11. (Although not the Presidential Level.)
What I learned is that they have immense destruction of their immediate area. Depending on event factors though it's quite possible to survive one going off in the next town over. The mega-bitch is the societal collapse that follows a nuclear exchange; most people will die from lack of food, water, necessary medications and diseases that were previously preventable.
Peons like us don't get a choice in whether it happens or not, so there's no point in worrying about it.
i did a 2-3 week-long dive into nukes. if one is dropped on my city, i want to be at ground zero. very few people understand how devastating they are and no country on Earth is prepared for the ensuing crisis.
"How I stopped worrying and learned to love the bomb."
Well, now I'm worried about the mineshaft gap.
I hate that this is where I'm at in life too. Hell, at least the mushroom cloud would be a quick death if you're close enough! Better than dying in the Water Wars or Mother Nature saying we fucked up.
Stop with the goddamn nuke psychosis. rusian nukes aint worth shit. Be more scared of meteorites hitting the earth or dinosaur comeback but not rusian meme weapons
Do you really think it's worth taking that risk if it comes down to it?
That's the point of MAD. If they launch nukes, they get nuked back 10 times harder. Even in their best case scenario, Russia and Belarus become radioactive holes in the ground. Worst case for everyone, they kill the whole world with them. We can't let a rogue nuclear power do whatever they want because they have nukes. That's why we have nukes too. Like 90% of the "muh escalation" people are Russia shills.
I never even suggested we let them do whatever we want. That doesn't mean we provoke them into using their nukes.
Using that logic they can do whatever they want, as long as they back up their 'want' with nukes.
I think there are things we should never let them do, even under threat of nukes. Muscovy needs hard red lines, else they'd just annex everything. Got to call their nuke bluff from time to time.
What year is it? Why do you libs do this shit where you think it's clever using dumb names? Is that an 'own' or something?
Not sure if you want an actual answer, but the name "Russia" originally comes from "Kievan Rus", and Kyiv is in ... Ukraine. Renaming it to Muscovy (original name of the country) is then symbolically taking the name back.
Why you so butthurt? You ain't a Ruskie are you?
That's a weird way to see the world, dude.
Call for diplomacy. It can be both that the Russians illegally invaded Ukraine to rebuild the former Empire. It can also be that the US is in this to make profit for the military industrial complex and to sell natural gas to Western Europe to expand the empire.
After the fall of the Soviet Union the US made treaties with Russia that stated NATO will not pass reunified Germany. Now NATO is on Russia’s border. We store nukes several hindered miles from Moscow. Imagine how the US would react with Russian nukes on this side of the world. Say 90 miles off the coast of Florida.
The Cold War is over. NATO should be gone.
I am not a Russian apologist or a tankie. I am pro peace. I am a U.S. citizen. I love my country. I believe we should not be a nation above nations but rather a nation among nations. Just remember the people in the media talking about freedom are the same fuckers who got US into Iraq and Afghanistan. Lindsey Graham put it best.
“I like the path we're on. With American weapons and money, Ukraine will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.”
The Europeans have been doing that since the fall of the USSR. It got more intense after 2014. It doesn't work with Putin's Russia.
I'd ask you to prove that but we both know that no such Treaty ever existed.
Happens all the time. Russian Nuclear Submarines on the East Coast, Russian Spy Ships hovering around Florida and Hawaii, and recently the Russians and Chinese started getting together to party off the coast of Alaska.
So it's not a question, we KNOW what the modern day response is. The US keeps an eye on it but otherwise continues to go about its business.
Yes, I imagine that President Putin would like that very much.
Said while spouting regurgitated and endlessly disproved Pro-Russian talking points. We all want "peace" bub, but rolling over and showing your belly is a poor way to get it.
So am I, of direct Lithuanian & German descent. My people came here Post WWII after seeing what the Russians were like first hand. Your call for appeasement is of no interest to me Mr. Chamberlain.
Seems legit to me. Putin is just being a whiny bitch and only showing countries why they should join NATO. Let's think about it. He invades Ukraine because he doesn't want to share a border with a NATO country. He wins Ukraine. Ukraine shares a border with Poland, a NATO country. Now what? Invade Poland too? And do you actually think for a goddamn second a defensive alliance is going to invade Russia?
Not to mention his aggression literally caused 2 more countries to join NATO.
Yes.
It's suicide for them if they do. We know our nukes work.
Rather not let nuclear dictators have free reign on the world because "OMG they may nuke us". Otherwise give em the keys to the world right now and surrender.
There's an old American proverb: LIVE FREE OR DIE
Bruh doesnt know about the dinosaur comeback smh my head
Ikr know Right
The fastest predator in the world right now is a dinosaur that can fly at over 200 mph— with razor-sharp claws, and so durable it can survive crashing into moving objects at that speed.
Their friends are scary smart. They're fiercely loyal, and yet ruthless and cruel.
And we've spent the last while spraying their eggs with poison, releasing bio-engineered killer drones into their midst, and planting invisible obstacles right in the middle of their highways.
If their weapons did not work at all, Ukraine would have retaken all their territory including Crimea last year. Given that at least some of their weapons work enough to only let small advances through, its pretty silly to rely on weapons capable of wiping out a city to fail or be intercepted given that, while Ukraine does intercept some russian missiles, unfortunately not all get intercepted before they hit their intended target. And that is already using some Western tech to achieve that.
Oh the mosin nagants work just fine but I wouldn't bet much on any rus*ian tech past the sixties.
Rus*ian nukes are just for show and yall are slurping it up
No one wins a nuclear war. We have 5000 and they have 7000. After the first one is dropped consider then end of humanity as we know it.
Every nuclear treaty between Russia and the U.S. has expired or is set to expire in a few years without renewal.
End of story.
Hell yeah dude!
Oh come on, aint nobody scared of the potato king