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[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 days ago

Bucee's sucks shit, no doubt

But I'm weary of this liberal notion that red States have nothing to offer the world. What the hell does it mean to "have actual cultural attractions"? Do red States not have culture?

Does Louisana not have a culture? Does the Black Belt, throughout the South not have a distinct culture? Does New Mexico, or Texas not have significant Hispanic population that heavily influence their respective cultures? How about South Dakota's heavy indigenous population? Or Oklahoma? How about Appalachia?

Whiteness in America is, admittedly, not unlike the Borg, wherein all cultural artifacts and language of the many white ethic groups which immigrated here, were assimilated. They gave up the lifeways of their homelands in exchange for a kind of security, and thus for their great grandchildren to be run over by a Ford F250 in a Bucee's parking lot.

But that doesn't mean these places are without rich, deep, and important cultures. The United States is a prisonhouse of nations. Oklahoma, alone, is where we shoved a significant portion of this continents indigenous people. The fact that they're state government is lorded over by the most unhinged gringos America has to offer doesn't make it a place worth ignoring or giving up on. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[-] brian@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

I took the comment more of an attack on how Bucees itself is paraded as a cultural attraction

[-] Delilah 21 points 2 days ago

New Mexico is not a red state

From Wikipedia:

40.3% voters registered as Democrat 31.2% voters registered as Republican

Democrat governor, Harris win the state in the last presidential election.

Also there is no Bucces in NM.

[-] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

Instead there are Alsups, which have the best convinence store chimichangas and breakfast burritos available anywhere.

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The fried burrito with that alsups sauce just hits right

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Y'all got convenience store chimichangas‽

[-] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don’t you fucking lump New Mexico in with Texas. New Mexico may be a big square state but it is a blue state that is holding the line. It is the first state to have universal child care, was a fairly early adopter of LGBT rights, is a reproductive healthcare sanctuary, has a wide variety of interesting cultural traditions and events, and has better chile than anywhere else.

[-] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

You raise a great point. The culture is there and blue states don't inherently have a greater inventory, per se. In response to the OP, would it be fair to say blue states celebrate and display that culture versus red states?

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I would say yes? But it's a hesitant yes. For example, New York City is in a blue state, and is very proud of showing off its diverse cultural fabric.

But even in the bluest of states, the problems of colonialism and the United State's fraught [understatement of the millennia] relationships with the indigenous peoples of this continent still persist.

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Don't ever group new Mexico and Texas. They may be close in proximity but are lightyears apart

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

I grouped them insofar as we stole them from Mexico ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah the “south” and the “south west” are two different things. The “south” ends at Texas. Though Arizona does do some stupid shit.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Texas is difficult. It is its own thing in many ways, and fiercely so. But it's also large. El Paso is definitely southwestern. Beaumont is definitely Southern. DFW would identify as Texas first, definitely not Southern and definitely not Southwestern.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Part of the Confederacy, part of The South. Fuck em.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I'm sad that as a queer person I feel unsafe visiting the deep south because I'd love to see more of the country, especially those areas you discuss. When I lived in Kentucky I developed a complex relationship with Appalachia that includes some love for it.

Fundamentally, I also just think it's tactically foolish to say that we don't want the cultures of red states to join us on the left. We don't dislike these places for the things worth loving about them like their food, their general ways of doing things, etc. We would gladly stand side by side with an inclusive, labor protecting Mississippi. Even Texas which is as annoying as California would be welcome in a blue coalition without having to give up its Texaseyness

[-] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not so much that -as a Connecticut Yankee that moved into the south. The south is a wonderful place rich with history, great wilderness, and a fairly decent people that still value hospitality. It's also full of sparsely filled main streets and ghost towns with only 2 Dollar Generals and a host of mom and pop stores that have gone out of business. This person is trying to convey this difference and is an inarticulate asshat. I'll tell you this - I can't get good healthcare but I can get a smoked tenderloin biscuit at 6 places on the way to work that puts fast food to shame. It is also not very healthy. I no longer care.

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