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Former President Donald Trump's supporters say they hold him as a source of true information over their family, friends, and religious leaders, according to a new CBS News/YouGov poll out on Sunday.

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[-] spider@lemmy.nz 30 points 2 years ago
[-] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

at least, in the end, they rid the world of themselves. MAGAts want everyone else dead.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I still wonder Jonestown was a hostage situation and the members of the cult were coerced at gunpoint to drink poison to avoid being tortured to death by the CIA.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago
[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Everything you know about them you learned from the government.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I learned what cults were from the 6 years of religious school I went to. According to literal classes I took on cults, Trumpism is a cult.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sure, but I never said otherwise. Do you think I'm a Trump supporter?

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

No, everything I learned came from private enterprise.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Whatever you need to tell yourself to get to sleep at night.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

You sound like a government plant stranger. I’m going to listen to myself, not your lunacy.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Did you listen to the recordings? Sounded more like a hostage situation than people expecting to be raptured.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Nice try dude, go spook someone else.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

There's no sand here. You'll have to go elsewhere if you want to bury your head.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you told me grass is safe, I’d wear shoes.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Most republicans love their government, I don’t trust it. Read into that what you will.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Republicans only love power. They only love government when they're in control of it.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Which given your actions you clearly seem to think you do. Bugger off.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

We might have a conversation if you'd stop talking to your fantasies of me.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t have conversations with government actors. I call them out again and again until they move on to their next operation.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What faction of government do I work for in your fantasy? Am I an FBI drone or a cool CIA spy?

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Does it matter? I don’t need details to know I can’t trust you. You talk like the state.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 12 points 2 years ago

I didn't learn about Jonestown from the government. You're staying to sound a bit like a cultist yourself.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Who did you learn about it from? Where did they get their information?

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

If there's insufficient evidence of your theory, in both quantity and quality, then it isn't rational to believe it.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ditto. If the source of your information is the sworn enemy of all competing cultures, you have no information

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

For anyone following along, this is 100% what propaganda tries to do. Tells you not to trust anyone but them, tells you everyone but them lies. This is classic state actor behavior.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I didn't tell anybody to trust me. I'm telling you to question your own cult of authority. If you think the US is any different than any other cult, it's because you're brainwashed.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

A demonstrable lie. I don’t trust government actors.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yet you accept the Jonestown story uncritically.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I reject your story. I don’t trust the government.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

False dichotomy. My alternative version of events comes from lack of trust in the government's narrative.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, sure dude. Then why do are you arguments ring of being a government actor?

I don’t see any dichotomy here. You just work for the state.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

In hospice, we call what you're going through the denial, bargaining, and anger stages of grief. The truth is, you have no logical way to counter my proposal.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That which is present with with lies needs no truth to dismiss. I trust my fellow citizens, not you.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Do you get a lot of input from your fellow citizens? Do they all pull from the same sources of information? Do they ever approach that information with a critical eye, or do they blindly defend what they think they know like you do?

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They just don’t trust people like you. Simple as that.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They only know their fantasy of me and the fact that I question their perception of reality. Nothing more.

[-] UFO64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They know your a state actor. They don’t need to know anything else.

[-] webadict@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It was, in fact, a cult. The only people you could reasonably assume were "hostages" were the children that were forced to drink cyanide because they didn’t understand what was happening. You can hear them on the recording.

There were people who left Jonestown that spoke about the practice sessions. Most people were not in any way forced to drink it because they were brainwashed.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You can actually hear a lot of people crying, not just the children. You've heard it was a cult, but all that information was filtered through the US government.

[-] webadict@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It's really convenient that you can simply refuse any information as it being from the government with no proof because it allows you to never be wrong.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's really convenient that you can simply accept any information from the government with no proof because it allows you to never be wrong.

[-] webadict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Right, but you never said anything about the people that left Jonestown who talked about their experience. Were they government agents?

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