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[-] Thorry@feddit.org 259 points 1 day ago

In civilized countries the nutrition facts need to be stated in both serving size and 100 grams. This makes it easier to compare products with different serving sizes and also prevents bullshit like this.

[-] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 31 points 14 hours ago

Serving size is generally speaking complete bullshit regardless. Per 100g is sufficient

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago

Serving size has a lot of use cases, especially when looking at things individually packaged or in separate units (cookies for example).

Per 100g has fewer use cases in my mind as I'm not a scale and have no idea how to break down most products into 100g.

[-] fushuan 2 points 4 hours ago

You do the other way around, you see the total weight of the thing, you guesstimate how much you are gonna eat and you do the math. Half of 500g is 250, so x2.5 whatever is on the 100g nutritional panel.

It's not about when you would use the per 100g it's about 100g being easy to be transformed into other units so you get an easy multiplier you can apply to the values.

[-] despoticruin@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

If you are American it's about 4oz, and if you want a visual with most foods that is roughly a cubic inch of food per ounce. It's not exact but it's close enough to understand when applied to stuff like oil and butter alongside cotton candy or dry crackers where the densities and amounts used dramatically differ.

[-] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

So to hit my macros tonight I can treat myself to 7 cubic inches of pie. Got it.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

That's how it is stated in civilized countries. This is American bullshit. You wouldn't get a serving size on something like oil either.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 65 points 23 hours ago
[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, You're right,I misread, my bad.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 30 points 22 hours ago

Wait, stop that. Now I look like a jerk.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

No it's not, oil does not have a "serving size".
Thorry wrote both would be required, but when there is no "serving size" it would only be the 100g stated on the label.
Generally here (Denmark) we never see "serving size" because it's bullshit, and probably considered misleading.
And misleading labeling and marketing is illegal.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 21 hours ago

There is a point to having both - or at least giving an idea of how much an item typically weighs. One cookie might be 200g or 50g; people may typically reach for 1-5 cookies, for example.

A misleading serving size (eg “per 1/4 cookie”) is indeed not helpful at all, but I don’t think it’s illegal.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 5 points 21 hours ago

I just have to disagree. On a product like this, if the nutrition facts for 100g are listed, then you're going to have to do the math re: how much you're actually going to use. Having it measured out in a realistic serving size makes more sense to me.

There's also pretty much no issue comparing products, as products in the same category usually all have the same serving sizes.

Cooking spray just happens to be used so sparingly that its nutritional value when used appropriately is usually negligible

[-] Thorry@feddit.org 41 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Oh no! Imagine having to do extremely simple maths.... It's calculus, hardly maths at all.

The whole point is the "realistic serving size" is a myth. It's like buying a bag of 30 sweets and having the serving size be 3 sweets. You know I'm going to eat the whole fucking bag in 1 go, so I would like to know the actual nutrition facts.

And like I said, usually both are on the packaging, but the 100 gram one is required by law. And depending on where you live there are laws regarding the serving size as well and it may be required.

[-] _chris@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Sorry, most people in the US can’t divide. The majority stop retaining around subtraction, and that’s giving the benefit of the doubt.

I know people who whip out the calculator for 9+13.

[-] mabeledo@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago
[-] _chris@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

It’s written on the receipts. And when it isn’t, whip out the calculator.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

It's not even that the labels are sometimes cryptic. Like sure I have 400g of cheese, but how many grams is a single slice? This information is not included on the brand I buy, nor the number of slices.

So I either have to weigh a slice of cheese or count out the number of slices. Then do the math.

In the US it simply says 1 slice is x calories.

I won't understand this backwards sense of pride in shitty labeling.

[-] wols@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Ideally nutritional facts would be given both per 100g and per some reasonable serving size (as well as clearly specifying the serving size), but if I can only have one give me 100g.
Note that while only the 100g figures are required by law, most products in Europe include the ones for serving size as well, so I'm not sure what shitty labeling people are supposedly prideful of.
Personally I would also like a section for figures per the entire package but that's exceedingly rare.

US labeling is perhaps more convenient more often, but it also frequently misleads/hides information from the consumer which I think is much worse.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 26 minutes ago

most products in Europe include the ones for serving size as well

Disagree at least in the case of Germany. It was 50/50 at best. Although almost every food item I've seen in France has both

[-] portifornia@piefed.social 3 points 17 hours ago

I'm from the US, if I could read, I bet this post would upset me! 😅

[-] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago

Op said BOTH. No math needed.

[-] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago

the thing is that different people use different serving sizes. -- written by somebody who pours lots of oil over salad.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

then you’re going to have to do the math

Why? It's listed in both, so you know a spray is close to zero. If you're using more than a couple or few sprays, you're doing it wrong, so what's even a few sprays? 5 calories?

Your measuring inaccuracy on other ingredients is going to be WILDLY more than the calories from the oil. Baking and spray the baking sheet? When you measured your flour, did you get it to the nearest TENTH of a gram? Because a gram of flour is like 3.5 calories, so if you were off by a single gram - or your scale doesn't even show decigrams, then the rounding error is likely more calories than the oil you use that adds to each 'serving' of the thing you're making.

So this is extremely unimportant.

[-] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 7 points 20 hours ago

Going to do the math an a number that relates to 100g, as in is pretty much stated in percentage?

[-] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 1 points 19 hours ago

I've told people that it's a percentage but they have a hard time understanding that and insisted on doing it from the serving size still.

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