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Seems like resistance to AI is religious here for some reason.
Usually I would write "almost" on such issues, but it's so bad I can't in good faith call it only almost.
A lot of us have an adversarial relationship with large, extractive corporations. AI is a disruptive technology, and sadly that means it usually disrupts power away from working people into the hands of fewer and fewer "elites" and their collaborators.
I'd say there are many well informed reasons to be against virtually (virtually) all use of AI in 202X.
Absolutely, and I agree on that.
But most of what we hear is about ChatGPT and Claude. And I agree they are detrimental, and Grok is a joke.
However Deepseek was made for about the equivalent amount Meta uses on Catering, and maybe isn't as disruptive, and doesn't require those enormous datacenters either.
Just because the big ones are insanely harmful in many ways, doesn't mean that AI can't have value.
There are use cases for AI that are actually beneficial, like detecting skin cancer more accurately.
Absolutely. I'd love to see local LLMs completely destroy the platforms, and take the cloud computing behemoths with them while they're at it.
So while I'm skeptical of the training methods and incentives behind using any LLM (I was and am similarly skeptical of Kubernetes or any kind of "yaml engineering" to put it in perspective), I don't think the technology itself is necessarily pernicious.
I mean I was just honestly asking the question. I work in tech, and I hear the point/counterpoint on "AI" in the regular, although we don't typically talk about the data centers themselves, more the pros and cons of the tools themselves.
But I'm just puzzled that the same people that literally were chanting, "drill baby drill". They get excited about rolling coal and shutting down wind turbines and shitting on solar. They have wet dreams about "deregulating" companies that pollute AT SCALE while advocating for stupid things like coal to make a comeback. But now they are now....riled up about data centers?
I honestly just cannot understand it. Seriously. Because the impacts of things like coal-fired plants are going to be in their back yard, too, so it's not just NIMBY-ism.
It is odd isn't it? I think we have a perfect neologism for the phenomenon when we say their opinions are largely "vibes based" (as all opinions are to some degree).
So I think you've for NIMBY-ism, right-wing "virtue" signalling, fear of change, fear of scarcity, and imho most hopefully, an honest distrust of big businesses trying to make big disruptive projects without thinking about current workers and their current needs to earn an income for nigh existential reasons.
Sounds like a focus on jobs. Although renewable energy creates jobs, I think they've been brainwashed to think the opposite.
Some of the right seem to think that temporary jobs for data center build-outs will create long-term jobs, but apparently not all of them, or maybe they don't think the "job creation" will outweigh the downsides.
I do wonder how much of it is still inertia from when these absolute idiots were unshakeable in their belief that Big Tech are all a bunch of liberals out to censor conservatives, and "cancel" conservatives and so on...the people that were certain there was a big conspiracy around Biden's "laptop" (hard drive). The people that think that Elon really had to save Twitter from the tyranny of liberals running a tech company. 🤣
I think it's because most people on Lemmy are technologically literate enough and over exposed enough to AI that's it's basically reached a stage where banning it is the default opinion. Personally I just think it's a stupid waste of resources and want these fucking LLM companies to all go bankrupt.
Lemmy is also full of techies whose jobs have been cut or poisoned by AI
Who's job has been cut by AI?
Well, AI-washing. It's used as the excuse for layoffs (I know several people personally), but the leftovers have to work twice as hard to cover the gaps while training the LLMs to do that job too.
100% with you on that. In 2000 I personally predicted that AI would approach human intelligence around 2030, but I never dreamed it would be this useless.
I'm a bit astonished that I nailed it so closely, it was purely based on estimating the compute power available, and that software would progress together with that. And the estimated power of AI at the time considered to be around the level of a bee.
But I must say I'm disappointed in the application of it, and the crazy raze to invest in and ~~monetize~~ (attempting to monopolize) it.
Honestly it being vaguely on par with the average person is in my opinion more of a statement on how fucking moronic the average person is than anything else, I'd quote George Carlin but that particular quote is pulled up so frequently so as to be repetitive so I won't. Regardless I wouldn't really call this current outcropping of chatbots to be AI but instead that they are VI or virtual intelligence close enough to trick most people on first contact but once you pick it apart enough you can figure it out quite fast. Though even then it's still on the rather primitive side of the theoretical range
The sad part is that there are some bits of tech that started popping off around when this shit started to get popular that does have some really awesome potential such as acoustic diagnostics for machine or those systems that can detect cancer formation months or even years before a doctor could manually detect it. The thing is that while some of these systems may use language models or learning algorithms they basically have no overlap with shit like Chatgpt or Claude, but will almost certainly be hurt when the AI bubble pops just because they share some terminology.
Absolutely AI has good uses, ChatGPT and Claude are not representative for all of AI, but even they have good use cases. But the massive poorly planned build out of data centers is insane.
Here in Denmark new data centers are only allowed as we build out the grid with more renewable energy. And Denmark is a very popular country for data centers, exactly because we have a high degree of renewable energy.