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[-] disorderly@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

As someone with previous defense connections, I'd been wondering when we'd see this.

ITAR has severely restricted access to nav system tech export, but there was always this open question about reckoning position by visual cues rather than GPS + dead reckoning. We all knew it was technically feasible, but we assumed that having "visual" cues was further out because AI at the time wasn't up to the task.

The answer is the same, though. Nvidia, willing or not, is now a defendant in an unjust war, and must be subpoena'd by the ICC. At a minimum, they should be immediately sanctioned by foundry specialists (like ASML) until they are prepared to account for how, exactly, this tech ended up in a Russian missile.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

we assumed that having “visual” cues was further out because AI at the time wasn’t up to the task.

For just terrain recognition, the US has had that since before there was GPS. Since the 1950s even.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Lots of cheap plane-type drones do terrain navigation now. And the Russians are busily deploying their military version of Starlink.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

ITAR has severely restricted access to nav system tech export, but there was always this open question about reckoning position by visual cues rather than GPS + dead reckoning. We all knew it was technically feasible, but we assumed that having “visual” cues was further out because AI at the time wasn’t up to the task.

There's always going back to the old-fashioned method of having a trained pigeon inside of the device instead of a sophisticated computer vision system.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago

Or the pigeon can be the drone itself, what a wonderful world it is

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wasn't there some historical leader with mad beef with someone they were at war with, she requested several pigeons as part of peace negotiations and she released them to fly back carrying burning twigs and absolutely destroyed the enemy city?

Edit: Added a necessary word lol

[-] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Nvidia, willing or not, is now a defendant in an unjust war, and must be subpoena'd by the ICC.

Subpoenas only exist in the US. Since it did not sign the Rome treaty, and since Nvidia is an American company - the ICC has no power here.

[-] MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Current defense worker here:

Was talking with a coworker recently about how ITAR/EAR rules are hilariously out of date. Basic IMUs coming from China these days are good enough that you can establish a reasonable dead reckoning nav to where those parts of the munitions list are just defunct. Shit I did that in college ten years ago with high power rockets and things have only gotten better.

The new proposed regulations over AI chips are also wildly misguided and demonstrate how Congress/Executive branch have no idea what the tech even is. The top of the line chips today are needed for LLMs, fast fixture acquisition and tracking can be done on a way less powerful piece of hardware that new regulations will fail to stop (that's even assuming that the bans would have worked in the first place, which they won't)

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago

Plenty of western tech still ends up in Russian weapons, it's nothing new. NVidia should be just put in queue.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

The unjust war CIA and MI6 took great pains and a long time to prepare you mean? As opposed to all the just wars US and the West are leading all the time? You people are just so cartoonishly clueless buffoons it isn't even funny.

Oh, and have fun trying to contain top technology coming out of China. Perhaps it would be fun to see them embargo the US.

[-] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 3 days ago

The unjust war CIA and MI6 took great pains and a long time to prepare you mean?

Sources? Credible or incredible; just not some Telegram channel please. Open www.

The rest of your comment is just whataboutism, and writing "you people" on social media always says more about the writer's mental health than about said people. No disrespect.

[-] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 4 points 3 days ago

America is a terrorist nation and if you can't see it.. I dunno what to tell you, man.

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