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"we are a premium brand"
my ass.
These "premium" German brands are all committing suicide. Rejecting electric cars, rejecting nuclear power, designing cars that look like puke, and doing everything to monetize your use of the car.
With incompetent leadership like this, those 8k workers being laid off from BMW is just the beginning.
German car brands are rejecting nuclear power?
I was really looking forward to my luxury German nuclear-powered car as well >:(
You don't see them launching cars powered by their own onboard reactors, do you?
You are right!
Uhuh. That plant in Romania that had to shut down, because the rivers are too hot.
You're right, they should keep burning coal. Clean, beautiful coal, works no matter how hot it gets!
As if there's not already entire countries with mostly renewable.
Nope, there's not. Countries like Denmark which pretty much only produces wind power is completely reliant on importing energy from countries with a diverse energy mix, without which they would have blackouts every week.
And why is it so hot, I wonder
CO², nuclear didn't help much against it.
don't worry, they'll keep stoking nationalist paranoia and shift to weapon production. What's the worst that could happen?
The premium is unfortunately not in the interior and infotainment experience, at least not these days. And I guess to non car people, the infotainment is what sells cars now.
The Germans still build the best* ICE drivetrains, the best chassis and suspension setups, to give you an excellent ride quality AND sporty handling in the same 2 ton family station wagon. Nobody compares, not even Volvo. But interior layouts have been going downhill steadily for like a decade now. And when it comes to EVs, you can't really compete without being Chinese anyway. Other countries don't have access to the same battery pricing, nor the same labor costs (to be fair the latter applies to both ICE and EV alike).
They'll all die slow deaths. As EVs become mandated, Chinese companies will take over because nobody else can afford to sell cars for so cheap. The Chinese cars will of course have all the same infotainment issues like unwanted ads and they'll be similar privacy nightmares, plus the prices will go up once you can only buy Chinese cars. It'll be fun and we'll all love it.
* Toyota Supra A90 used BMW's B58 engine. That should tell you everything you need to know. TOYOTA didn't bother coming up with their own engine for the chassis they also got from BMW. It's been heralded as the modern 2JZ.
Dad has a BMW. It has a too smooth dampening and steering adjustment to speed, so you'll vastly underestimate how fast you're driving. I won't drive his car anymore; too dangerous.
That tends to be adjustable in cars now. Oftentimes the comfort setting is vague on purpose on a lot of cars. My Audi in comfort is fine if not a bit too soft for spirited driving on back roads, on Dynamic it's perfect for that. It's a 2007 Allroad though. Still has hydraulic (but variable) power steering and such.
When I had my 2019 C-Class, it felt just right for this type of driving, even though that one had steel springs and no adjustable dampers, but did have adjustable steering since it was fully electric power steering. It also felt completely at home cruising at 150-160 km/h (no autobahn here so I wouldn't go faster than that usually).
Only BMW I ever owned was an E61 and that one also had superb road feel, though I hear the newer ones aren't as good, since they do optimize for the highway rather than the curvy roads I personally prefer driving on.
In comparison, I test drove a Hyundai Ioniq 5, a small electric hatchback I thought would be sporty-ish, and that had zero road feel. Outright dangerous going fast into a corner with it, and with the electric torque it was certainly tempting to do so before I realized how little I know about its grip limits.
The ioniq5 is not small. it weighs 4000-4600 lbs. Porker. That's why it handles like shit.
Until the lease expires, then they are a nightmare to maintain. Money pits.
AUDI intentionally placed the timing chains backwards in motors so a high mileage timing chain replacement would require a full engine out and cost more than the car is worth. BMW used plastics in their pressurized fuel system with failure rates known after a set number of heat cycles, they are blowing up.
Plenty of non Chinese brands are on the EV train now.
I can buy an Alpine that it is, in every conceivable way, better than the cheapest VW EV (while being a bit cheaper, or the same price). How is this not a problem with German manufacturers specifically?
What are all the conceivable ways to you? Anyway, the Renault 5 is almost as much as the bigger id.3 neo here and we don't have anyone selling the Alpine version as it's more expensive than the 5 and thus too expensive for such a tiny car.
And all of these cost at least 4x as much as a similarly sized but lower power BYD does in China. That's how much cheaper the Chinese can build their cars. When they sell the same batteries to Renault or VW, the batteries alone likely cost about as much as BYD's entire car. And we can't really produce these batteries at such scale here in Europe because of pollution regulation. China processes most of the world's lithium and cobalt. Only hope we have is coming up with a magic battery chemistry that doesn't come with a ton of environmental issues, but unfortunately Donut Labs is more than likely a scam.
"Best" is a loaded word. "Best Horsepower for weight?" Possibly. Best reliability, absolutely not.
Agree about China overtaking market. Electric BYD is a huge ass SUV and costs 24k here. The next best option is a Dacia Bigster which is not exactly as good. Even so, dacias are populating my region due to low cost