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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

Hank Green has earned the right, with me anyway, to have his point of view heard. And frankly he has more credibility with me than the garden variety pitchfork-wielding anti-AI mob. I think Hank is a person who finds AI interesting and sees upsides as well as downsides. But the aforementioned mob is not interested in anything other than the emotional catharsis of railing against something they hate.

Now ask me if the mob is in the room with us, because it probably is.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

His AI use caused him so many problems in his private life that his family had to intervene. His point of view is “This technology has had a negative impact on my life and the lives of the people I care about”.

Your pro-AI spiel is a bit tone deaf here

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 32 points 2 days ago

But they didn't say anything pro-AI. At most they were anti-anti-AI mob, which is just reasonable, as is with any "mob". And I read mob here as mindless parrots that keep repeating talking points and hating for the sake of conformity.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Being anti-anti something is being pro-something. That’s the beauty of the double negative.

Also that’s just a very pro-AI user, so the intent can be inferred

[-] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You're conflating two different somethings. Anti-AI mob is not the same as AI. Being against mob mentality doesn't make you inherently pro AI.

It's possible to be pro or anti mob mentality and AI in various different combinations.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I’m anti anything mob. The fucking groupthink on certain issues is real.

I’m also anti people who make shit up and then try to sell it as a long strings of “inferences.”

And after having AI shoved down my throat at work for two years while my teammates get laid off, I’m pretty anti AI too. At most I have direct experience with it that teaches me it has some uses, like summarization.

You’re full of shit. You’ve been told. And you know it by now. But you’ll probably bleat on with more of the same because it’s all you know how to do. Proceed, I guess.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

lol sure pal. At least stick to your guns next time.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Brave showing, bravo. I’m glad someone came out of the woodwork to illustrate the monomaniacal mob behavior I was talking about. You did just perfect.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hmm I don’t remember mobbing anyone. All I did was reiterate what the man himself said, in the face of you trying to spin it as more pro than it was.

When the guy says his AI use was causing him problems and he regrets it and wants to make a change, I believe him. Simple as.

You're on Lemmy... any statements about AI, Musk, trump, McConnell, etc that aren't over-the-top against them will be met with downvotes.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago

Okay but why would anyone be anything but over-the-top against anything on your list?

I mean, like, everything you listed is dog shit.

[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

That's what I keep fucking asking, Like how can anyone with half a brain be okay with any of them?

Because sometimes in life there are nuances and it is possible to mention one of those topics in a neutral manner, but the absolute hostility held here against anyone who tries to have a conversation beyond "_____ sucks ass!" is exhausting.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

This is not one of those times. I don’t want to have a conversation with someone who thinks neutrally about any of those topics.

[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 6 points 2 days ago

The adults are talking

[-] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i have the exact opposite experience about AI, at least on lemmy.ml

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I said nothing pro-AI. But by accusing me of that, you reveal where your own bias (and defensiveness) lies. So thanks for that.

You’re also exaggerating the facts. They didn’t stage an intervention. He turned to his wife and brother and said “do you think my AI use is unhealthy?”

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You’ve said plenty pro-AI lol. You don’t have to get so defensive about it, just own your position.

I’ve exaggerated nothing. Hank himself said he’s spoken to both his wife and brother about his AI use and said they “didn’t pull any punches”, which implies there was a blunt conversation about it, if not two.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago

There wasn't an intervention, he asked them about his AI use in response to the outrage and they agreed he'd been using it unhealthy.

Seemed to me more along the lines of "do I have too much salt?" , "yeah you should cut back" ; Then "your coke problem is tearing this family apart"

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He said they “did not pull any punches” which implies it was a more blunt conversation than you’re suggesting.

Hank Green himself describes his relationship with AI the same way you would an addiction, and specifically mentions the dopamine reaction driving his use of it to a point where he became overwhelmed by it.

He’s not describing a casual discussion about table salt, he’s literally describing a drug/alcohol addiction.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 days ago

You don’t actually fucking know him.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That’s probably why he wrote an in depth explanation of what he did, his motive, how it affected him etc.

His public posts on the matter were not made for the people who actually know him.

[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

You sound like you lick Grok and Gippitys silicon balls.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I don’t even know what that second one is, and I wouldn’t touch Xitter with a ten foot turd.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Ok, I guess you were too busy fondling Gr0ks and gipeettys balls to type out a constructive response. Are these how you'd like them to participate in your silicon fetish?

[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I literally use no AI in my day to day. I try and bully AI users tbh

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

That's fair. It's a new technology, we need trusted people to explore it and tell us what their experience was. I don't think we have very many trusted people left

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