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[-] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 days ago

Yeah it's gotta be the daily allegiance to the flag -thing for me. That shit hella weird.

@kadotux @cm0002 @Bytemeister @merc

Having read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as a kid (they were required reading in school), it seems to me that the flag should be pledging allegiance to *us*, not the other way around.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I stopped saying the whole pledge in kindergarten. Didn't seem right to pledge to a god I didn't believe in.

Pretty much stopped saying it all together after 9/11

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

"I pledge allegiance to the the Flag of the United States..."

Unless you think the flag is a god, you're not pledging to a god, you're pledging to a piece of fabric, or to the design printed on that fabric. Which, honestly, is a lot weirder. How can one have allegiance to a flag? What about the opposite, is it possible to be disloyal to a flag?

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

...for which it stands, one nation, under god...

[-] Logarrhythmia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Huh, just checked the text and I was surprised to find that the god part was only added in 1954.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yep, because soviet spies were godless heathens who can't/won't lie about their faith in order to sneak into the US.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was an easy way to spot them back then. A bit like vampires and garlic.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, god is mentioned as an additional clause, but you're pledging to the flag.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes... Pledging allegiance... To a flag.... Representing a Republic... That exists by/for god...

I mean, I didn't look into it that much at first, I was in kindergarten FFS, but I remember thinking it was funny that God was mentioned in the pledge, and how he was also mentioned in the prayers at Grandma's church, and I thought I shouldn't lie and say the "under god" part since I didn't believe.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

OMG this. Straight up indoctrination. And our parents were like Rah Rah, GOOOO TEAM!!!!

Shit looks sketchier the farther we get away from the previous world war.

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