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[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago

The coup, along with other nefarious plans, was prepared a looooonng time ago.

I'm not an expert but if I had to guess I'd say that the usa is about 60% through being completely overthrown. You've still got time to stop this insanity though.

The most hilarious, yet tragic, thing is you aren't being overthrown by a hostile foreign country. Or evil genius mastermind.
You are being taken over by an old dementia riddled pathological liar and narcissist, that paints itself orange who also raped/rapes children and women.

If I went back to the 90s and wrote a book about a 'rich' hitler loving nepo baby who raped kids becoming president of the us using Russian money, and then taking it over from the inside I would be laughed at. Not one publisher would touch me.
Hell, even if I got rid of the fat cunts 'greatest' hits of child rape, etc, and just focused on the failed reality TV 'star' and all the casino bankruptcies with the blatant corruption becoming president then no publisher would have touched me. Yet here we are.

[-] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Trump has the backing of multiple countries that want him to fuck the US up. He also has the backing of the overwhelming majority of billionaires.

This isn't a coup of a reality tv moron....the reality tv moron is being used as a tool by the actual engineers of the coup. Trump isn't smart enough or functional enough to pull off a coup or even conceive of how to do one with outside help. Trump is a functionally illiterate moron of a puppet being propped up by a multi-billion dollar propaganda machine.

[-] historicaldocuments@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

used as a tool by the actual engineers of the coup

Kayfabe.

A person who's bad at chess plays the game thinking that the opponent will step into traps that have been laid out for them. They don't think about the opponent being smarter, more experienced, having a will of their own, or looking out for themselves. That person would be great in a wrasslin' match, because now it's time for the opponent to run into a clothesline or whatever.

Back in the real world actions have reactions: “no nation has friends only interests.” Make NATO uncertain that the US will show up if needed, and threaten to pull support for weapons? That looks great in the wrasslin' match. Big strong man yelling at a TV camera impresses people who tuned into watch wanting to be impressed. In the real world it will take generations for the US to build back the trust it had if it can. Anyone wanting to make moves on a global scale will do so before that situation reaches a steady state.

The only thing that could make it worse in the real world for the US is if it started an unnecessary war for no reason and expended a huge amount of hard to replace munitions in a very short time while simultaneously giving an adversary a lot of looks at what modern US equipment looks like. It plays great inside the wrasslin' match, though.

[-] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The end boss won't be Trump. I dont mean to minimize the damage he's done, but in the end he's a useful idiot. The work horse that is plowing through systems of protections to plant the seeds of whatever comes after. The bull in the china shop, or even just a developer as he's always been. He's the middle man in the story that is America's shift and collapse/reformation.

He says and does things to enrich himself and his family but he wont be the power behind the throne.

I cant say that I dont hate him, but he's just one piece of the machine at work here. He doesn't have the skills or the strength to be a true dictator. He's the tip of the spear that his supporters are using to kill America.

I would be more worried about who will take over when he's gone, or who's working behind the scenes. It's not one person yet, or at least, history hasn't revealed who that one person is.

What he is, is a demonstration. Proof that these things can be done with minimal pushback. And a lightening rod for our ire.

But it will get worse, and it wont be a Trump dynasty.

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The USA is a republic and historically republics do fail from internal factors more than external.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Unless it's Venice. But those fuckers were weird and survived for a thousand years, also Carthage was destroyed by Rome so add them to the list.

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Carthage had plenty of internal issues before Rome turned up. Hannibal as actively disliked, they used mercenaries in their wars.

To be honest Carthage sounds more like modern USA the more I read about them.

Venice was an outlier and probably would have gone the same way if it weren't for Napoleon.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Just noting that Carthage and Venice were destroyed by outside forces. Sure Carthage would most likely have collapsed or otherwise become a dictatorship a la Rome but who knows maybe they wouldve reformed. As for Venice that's basically impossible to know, they reformed their government so many times in their history so as to keep power hungry assholes from getting power that who knows what wouldve happened had they survived into the 19th or even 20th century.

Though regardless I suspect the US may not have even 10 years left in it, hell it may not even have a year left in it if shit hits the fan badly enough.

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There won't be a military outside force for America. That will come from economic pressure, it will be a fast moving financial change that the market won't be able to forecast or adapt to.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Oh definitely. Personally I think the current economic and oil crisies is what's going to collapse the federal government. What happens afterwards is entirely guesswork though.

[-] mangobanana@discuss.online 6 points 1 week ago

Trump is not a symptom of what's wrong with America, we are not here because of him, we are here because Americans are dumb followers who cannot tell that the Republicans have been planning this for 60 years

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