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Mullvad controversy (self.privacy)
submitted 2 days ago by SomeOne to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Could someone fully explain the mullvad controversy. From my knowledge so far it seems like the cofounder donated to an alt right party and it's probably a bad sign for the company. Anything I'm missing?

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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Companies are owned by the bourgeoisie, who are right wing[1]. So “voting with your dollar” over this is largely performative

Yet they will still respond to capital pressure in large enough numbers. In a broken system like capitalism that's what holds power. If not you can write off BDS and any other type of boycotts.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Mullvad didn’t fund Õbrero; one of Mullvad’s owners did, and boycotting Mullvad won’t un-donate those funds, because there’s no return policy on political donations.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Mullvad didn't condemn the funding and the owner will certainly continue using profits from his company to fund far-right remigration efforts if he specifically chose that party instead of any other generic leftist party.

Also Mullvad is very expensive compared to other VPN's to begin with. And Mullvad's servers have been getting blocked everywhere lately so there's no real reason to use it either. Might as well use AirVPN or the likes. I'm probably switching to Proton for ease of use but i might choose another sooner or later.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

So largely performative. With enough pressure, Mullvad might say something negative about a bourgeois party, which won’t do anything.

There’s no reason to think Proton would be any different in this regard. Proton Mail Says It’s “Politically Neutral” While Praising Republican Party

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

They're nowhere comparable. Proton's case is relevant to their business and to VPN's as a whole. Not just doing random private donations to Nazis. As they stated in response to the article:

Also objectively Proton would receive less money because they're a lot cheaper.

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Good share. Not seen this context before.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

To be clear the notion that any of the two US parties would be better in any way than the other is just stupid. It's all good-cop bad-cop. But at least Proton isn't directly donating to any of them.

[-] whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Condemning the funding could (I’m not an expert or lawyer) open the company up to a different type of law intended for “terrorism” or “extremism”. I do not know what actually drove the publishing of such a fence riding post on their part but that’s a possible explanation that takes into account the conditions and foresight the company has exercised in the past.

Also as an airvpn user do not use it for security or privacy. It’s a really good piracy vpn just use it for that. If you’re concerned for your safety please consider carefully the consequences of your choices when you register for proton (don’t make a services account, don’t use a recovery email that can be tied to you or at all, pay cash). A lot of the services people hold up as alternatives have ways for the unaware user to accidentally screw it up and end up in a bad situation.

[-] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

pay cash

Ooo! I didn't know Proton accepted cash payments. But you are right. They do.

My proton is tied to me, b/c I didn't really care and it wasn't important to my threat model. But it's good to know they offer this. I was paying for Mullvad with cash. Since the whole thing has happened with Mullvad, maybe I'll open a cash paid Proton just for the VPN option.

I really wish Proton offered Wireguard tho. It's so much nicer than OpenVPN.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Are you talking about Proton or AirVPN in your second paragraph?

[-] whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Both. The first couple of sentences are about air and the rest is about how you gotta keep your head on a swivel when you sign up for proton.

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