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[-] robbotlove@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago

when Russia becomes the third world nation in a proxy war.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 1 year ago

Russia has been a third world nation since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Politicians just like to use the Russian boogeyman to scare people who remember the Cold War. Putin may be a monster, but China is the real threat.

[-] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Russia literally invaded two countries and stole their land and people. Your post is ridiculous.

[-] mihor@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago
[-] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Russia is certainly a regional threat but countries invade and dominate other countries in their sphere of influence all the time. Russia does not have what it takes to dominate on a world stage like they did after World War 2. Their economy is weak, as is their military.

[-] silvercove@lemdro.id 12 points 1 year ago

but ~~China~~America is the real threat.

FTFY

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

America collaborates well enough with the rest od the countries. Americas system is bullshit but China is having even more control and is even more destructive. Both are shit but China is more of a threat

[-] silvercove@lemdro.id 15 points 1 year ago

Collaborate? Is that what America does when they invade a country and murder its people?

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Thats why I hate america too, and its capitalist system. They are mostly jerks. But they chrisitan way of not knowing what to do except of bombarding is really weird.

But at least its cooperating eith EU and some counctries.

[-] MajorSauce@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

No no no, they liberate the country from dangerous potential socialist values, a perceived will of the country to distance themselves from the US, or, you know, because they can.

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

The only people that matter are white and European.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago
[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I guess everything is relative. I should have clarified that I meant China is a threat to America’s dominance of the world stage.

[-] silvercove@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago
[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah to be fair some people will have a problem with it and some won’t. I think it will be interesting to see who comes out on top.

[-] silvercove@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago
[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe, but the housing crisis and shrinking population gives me pause. Not to mention I think there is more internal dissent in China than people like to talk about. China still hasn’t caught up to the US militarily and the gap is no longer closing in.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

the least racist redditor on lemmy

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"usa good china bad

ww3 great"

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

What does race have to do with it?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Oh please, we all know the real reason China is seen as a "threat" by Americans.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

It’s all about money and power, mate. Not race. The US and the Soviet Union are both predominately Caucasian and they were at odds for the better part of the 20th Century. Race has nothing to do with it.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

When it comes to China, racism isn't exactly hidden.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

What are you on about? You didn't address my counter-point. You merely restated this blatant propaganda.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

You still aren't addressing my point. "Buddy" here is an attempt to bring me down a peg. You are using logical fallacies.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I never dismissed your claim. I did counter it with logic. You have yet to counter in return.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The fact that you think you countered it with logic really highlights the fact that you're not very good at logical thought. The fact that westerners are racist doesn't preclude them from hating other systems such as USSR for other reasons. The fact that you don't understand this shows you lack any capacity for logic. You keep pretending racism isn't the reason westerners hate China, but the fact is well documented. So in addition to not being capable of understanding basic logic, you're either a liar or just deplorably ignorant.

Maybe next time you try to pretend to be intelligent do it on a topic you have clue about.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

China was considered a true partner of the West until 2008.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Both the US and China have legitimate security interests that are at odds with each other.

[-] IDriveWhileTired@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, but the real threat to what exactly?

Edited: aside from Taiwan, Hong Kong, several other nations in the east. My question was more in the context of China as a threat to anything in the western hemisphere. They are the eastern version of the US, no doubt about it.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

The US status as a hegemony.

With India on the rise as well I think we are transitioning into a pre-WW1 like multipolar balance of power which could slide into WW3. Safest option would be China and the US dominate everyone else and we get another Cold War, but we will see.

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