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[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 176 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don’t think most women wanted to be pregnant back to back like that then.

My grandmother had 16 children. It destroyed her.

[-] Elting@piefed.social 144 points 1 week ago

I'm a tenth child and my mom did it of her own volition. It was like being a dog that nobody wanted to take care of.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm sorry you were forced to be in that position.

My dad was number 14. He was once asked for advice by a man who had several children already and wanted more. My dad's advice?

"Stop."

My dad went on to explain that this guy was already neglecting his current children and that it was abuse to continue. Because there simply isn't enough time and resources available.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I used to work with a guy who was close to my age and had 12 children. He swore up and down that all of them got the same attention. I asked for the middle name of the fourth youngest and he couldn't answer.

I have just one kid living with me. (The other one is 26) I spend a lot of time and effort taking care of her, I don't see how I could adequately care for a double-digit number of kids.

[-] Elting@piefed.social 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My oldest sister wanted to do the same. My brother in law got a vasectomy in secret after the 7th. Everything your dad said is exactly true.

Edit: I don't mean to imply that some women aren't forced into the position of having more kids than they want. But usually having a lot of kids requires two mentally unwell religious fundamentalists.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh you're totally right that there's people who willingly do this as well! Thankfully we have more choices when it comes to how many children we want these days.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe it's just cuz I've got a neurospicy bean who is AuDHD and PDA af, but I do not understand how people can have more than a couple kids. Hell, my wife is the oldest of 5 and it's crazy how much abuse I now see they all endured (both neglect and actual SA abuse of the youngest ones that wasn't brought to light until a few years ago).

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Right? I've got one kid and I've got my hands full! I can't imagine having more kids than I wanted because of lack of access to contraception. Sounds like a nightmare.

[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

My mother wanted two, got two at once, went "DONE NOW" and it was for the best.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Bro I've got my hands full with two cats.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

The folks who have large numbers of kids typically start handing off childcare duties to the older ones as soon as they're physically capable of doing those tasks. Especially the girls - usually these sorts of families don't want boys doing child care unless there are no girls, but the boys start getting used for labor around the same age.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

The folks who have large numbers of kids typically start handing off childcare duties to the older ones as soon as they’re physically capable of doing those tasks.

More than once I have heard of the eldest child in these situations running off as soon as they are 18 and going no-contact.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

My eldest aunts ended up being pregnant the same time my grandmother was often.

There's a lot of resentment and grudges in my family tree.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Sounds like there might be more grudges than branches.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Lol they aren't inbred. My grandmother had 16 children so my eldest aunts were old enough to have their own babies while my grandmother was continuing to get pregnant herself.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I grew up catholic and that's how the big families I knew were. You had kids who were largely raised by their big sisters raising the younger siblings… And no, they weren't ok, they ranged from mad about it to excited to be the mom in such a dynamic

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago

You see, it's simple -- once you've been going for 5 or 6 years, you make the older children take care of the younger ones. Parentification is fun and saves you lots of work!

[-] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

often it's just the lack of contraception and/or appropriate education.

[-] Vreyan31@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago

No, some people get a thrill out of the power of making more people, of having a huge family, even if they don't take good care of them.

I personally don't get it. But I have a friend who is a really incompetent person - when we hang out, we have to make extra sure she doesn't do dangerous things like she is a child. She is a sweet person, but very oblivious in a way that is hard to put a pin on. She is married, and her husband takes care of her and has always seemed to kind of like the responsibility. To each their own. But they now have 2 kids and he is completely overwhelmed. But she wants more and keeps talking about trying to talk him into it or 'oops' getting pregnant again in a few years. We all yell at her when she says stuff like that.

It is the perfect flip-flop of the usual gender roles - where Dad has all the responsibility and doesn't want more, and Mom just sees it as some kind of power trip about her self image and is oblivious or just doesn't care that it would break her partner.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

There are certainly people who choose to do this. But in the time period pictured, it is more likely that this woman had no other choice.

[-] Vreyan31@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

Oh absolutely. Women were basically property then and no one had any concept of 'spousal rape'.

I was more addressing the mentality when people do it now - that it shouldn't be assumed to be ignorance about birth control

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

That’s fair, there certainly can be a power dynamic shift within a relationship with regard to number of children.

[-] IPeaceInYourFace@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Your mom is a POS

[-] Beth@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah definitely the elephant in the room when this comes up. Women didn’t have a choice and they were impregnated over and over even if it killed them.

[-] IPeaceInYourFace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You always have a choice. I see a lot of women applauding for feminism... But I never see them at the rally's.

Take some responsibility. If you're getting married and constantly plowed because you can't think for yourself, that's on you.

Having said that, humans are going to be human, so it's nothing particularlt unnatural.

[-] frischkaesbagett@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

I see a lot of women applauding for feminism... But I never see them at the rally's.

At what kind of rally's are you? All protests I go to are full of women fighting for theirs and others rights.

[-] joyjoy@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

My grandparents had 8 children. 7 came after everyone moved out and 8 came because they didn't want 7 to be lonely.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Now double it for this woman and my grandmother. It’s insane.

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