316
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Ubuntu seems universally hated. Why?

[-] __hetz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Desktop design decisions. A lot of folks hated Unity. I know I did - they turned something familiar into something Apple like and I couldn't stand it. I'm genuinely not a fan of the unified menus and such. It didn't help that users were basically forced out of Gnome 2 into it when Unity became the default.

Within Unity they Integrated Amazon results into the Desktop Search. That was likened to spyware since your queries were being shared with Amazon, much like MS integrating web results into their own search. Ubuntu fucked up harder because, absent any filtering, their search occasionally produced adult products in the results - ie sex toys and such. Imagine telling your kid Fluffy needs a new knotted rope chew toy. They start searching "dog knot toy" just to have the results filled with BadDragon knockoffs.

They've leaned heavier into enterprise over the years and that has alienated a lot of the Desktop audience which helped bring attention to OS in the first place. They went from "Linux for Human Beings," making desktop computing more accessible throughout the world, to becoming essentially the Microsoft of the Linux world.

Their snap backend is proprietary. You can't just host your own snap repository. Even if you host your own local snap cache, it ultimately must point to and retrieve from their repository to populate that cache.

I'm sure there's other stuff worth pointing out that I've forgotten.

[-] Truscape 1 points 1 month ago

The only reason I have ubuntu on my home server is because apparently Pterodactyl Panel is reliant on some aspects of it vs. Mint. It's frustrating that way.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Their documentation says Debian is supported.

[-] Truscape 9 points 1 month ago

GNOME (by default), Snaps forced on you OOB rather than being an optional thing during setup or in any of the GUI settings, locking newer security updates behind a subscription, and Cannonical just being a bad captain of the ship.

There's a reason why Mint is hailed as the new "casual (non-gaming) user favorite", since it's literally just Ubuntu sans GNOME and the hostile update design decisions.

[-] CoryCoolguy@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 month ago

Snap is why I don't recommend it to anyone. It's super aggressive and responsible for problems (famous example). It also gives Linux a bad impression to new users who still think Ubuntu is a "vanilla" distro. Watching Gamers Nexus struggle with the Steam package is a good example of this, I think. Steve came out ahead of the comments, saying, "I'm sure lots of people know [you need to use the purge flag]." Actually I didn't know that because I avoid hostile distros that constantly fight me.

+1 for Mint. Snapbuntu must be dethroned as the default beginner distro.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Too much corporate control and enshittification. For example, when you use apt-get to get native packages, it can instead download a snap package (which works differently, is controlled by them and might not be preferred for many other reasons), even though you clearly meant not to.

Canonical (Ubuntu's developer) is trying to push people deeper into the ecosystem they build and control.

Then, they roll out a paid Ubuntu version, Ubuntu Pro, separating paying and non-paying customers and turning Ubuntu into a subscription-based SaaS.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It was broken in many subtle ways even before snaps. Version updates were always a bit of a gamble and the whole thing was never as solid as properly managed distributions like the industrial ones such as SuSE or RH (or the properly managed ones that followed).

[-] Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

I don't hate it, it's just so far the worst one i've used. It's not necessarily bad, I have friends who use it.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

What were the worst aspects for you?

For me, the main thing i don't like is how the app store defaults to snaps, when the system package you want is hidden behind a drop down.

But i like a lot about it, namely the look and feel of the settings applications, hardware drivers, community support, trouble free updates, so for me it is my favorite.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Widely and loudly hated, but not universal. The fans just aren't that loud ;)

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago

Because apt is fundamentally broken and it shows most readily on a desktop-oriented distro like Ubuntu.

In order to benefit from packages not included by the distro you need to use 3rd party apt repos, but there's no rule against those repos using package names used by another repo, including the distro's repos. It could've also been fixed by identifying packages by [repo name + package name] instead of just [package name]... but it hasn't.

The result is that when Ubuntu packages get replaced by 3rd party packages by the same name it can mess up the dependency graph if the 3rd party repo isn't super careful about it.

It's not a huge issue immediately after installing something but as time passes and more updates pile on top of each other (from both Ubuntu and the 3rd parties) it can get completely ruined and eventually the update solver can't find an upgrade path anymore and you can't use Ubuntu's newer releases.

At that point you have two options. One is to use an advanced solver like the one in aptitude, for example, but in order to fix the mess it will recommend to uninstall and reinstall a huge number of packages, including very core, essential packages, which is very risky and you lose the 3rd party stuff anyway. At which point you might as well use option two, which is to reinstall a newer Ubuntu release from scratch.

Eventually after you go through this a few times it starts to get really annoying and you either get stuck on an old release out of dread, or you start looking for a distro that can be updated in-place indefinitely.

[-] toddestan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Hate is perhaps too strong of a word, but personally, I just don't care for their default desktop environment. If I had to, I could still use it but as I have lots of choices I'm going with something else.

On the other hand, I find Ubuntu to be a fine server OS, especially if you want something in the Debian family but want something a bit more up to date than what's currently in Debian stable but still widely supported.

this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2026
316 points (100.0% liked)

linuxmemes

32577 readers
1922 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
  • Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry of any kind will not be tolerated. This is an LGBTQ+-friendly community -- if that is a problem for you, you should leave.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
  • Don't come looking for advice, this is not the right community.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves / tolerates / hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  • 5. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Language/ัะทั‹ะบ/Sprache
  • This is primarily an English-speaking community. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
  • Comments written in other languages are allowed.
  • The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
  • Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
  • 6. (NEW!) Regarding public figuresWe all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations.
  • Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
  • We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
  • Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed.
  • ย 

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.

    founded 3 years ago
    MODERATORS