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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago

please just make an android alternative

I want a phone that isn't a closed ecosystem race to the bottom shit phone

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 65 points 1 week ago

There are, but the market is rigged by monopolists. And things like banks increasingly require apps that won't even run on customer Android ROMs easily.

The regulators are needed here.

[-] lemmysmash@piefed.social 25 points 1 week ago

The problem with regulators is that they a) gladly suck corporate dicks, b) gladly opt-in for the same authoritarian methods of population control, and c) gladly ignore common sense altogether.

[-] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

"a" has a name: regulatory capture.

Regulators have in the past fulfilled their role, they've just been hamstrung.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

That is also because we let the companies get too big. We need to break them up. The market is completely dysfunctional. It is feudalism right now.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

All of the alternatives eventually run into the same "Will my banking app work on it?" problem. The absence of a healthy app economy is the one thing that can't be fixed by throwing software engineers at it, and it is what caused the death of Windows Phone.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

my banking app already doesn't work on my phone, because it doesn't like termux:x11 and an autoclicker i have installed for an idle game

[-] Shumina@lemmus.org 9 points 1 week ago

God I fucking LOVED my windows phone. Nokia body, windows OS, and no one fucked with making viruses because eleventeen people bought one in total.

[-] DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

🤣 Man… that phone from The Saint with the slide out full sized keyboard though. Peek Nokia.

[-] xelar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lumias before Microsoft' acquisition were adorable phones.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

They should work in a browser no?

[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Not for things like check deposits, unfortunately

[-] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 8 points 1 week ago

@PabloSexcrowbar @anon_8675309 When my bank _doesn't_ allow check deposits via website, I will switch banks. Ain't installing a stupid app for a _bank_ of all things, and why would I bank from a device that I could accidentally lose at the grocery store?

[-] homik@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

Well, that's fine since it isn't 1982 anymore. Right?

Many banks require apps for 2FA. This varies greatly by country.

[-] cactus_head@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

There are open source 2FA. They require like specific apps OTP or something else?

You have to use the bank's own app to 2FA.

[-] Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

So you can use the website in your browser but still have the have their app installed for 2fa? That's peak bullshit there.

Google reCaptcha is going to have a similar requirement for accesing half the bloody internet once that goes through. In summary, I think we are fucked.

[-] DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Right. It wasn’t the zune guy, limited adoption, Microserfs killing the platform after 7 years or a general lack of interest, a climate of distrust after 10 years of garbage operating systems with new logos and the same Windows NT internals…

[-] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 week ago
[-] Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I feel like that won't be enough. Google is working on locking down the entire internet unless you can pass their reCaptcha with a verified device. See this article related to GrapheneOS and their reCaptcha concerns.

Sites need to stop using reCaptcha or we are all doomed anyway.

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 9 points 1 week ago

The issue is the hardware, we already have software

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

We already have the hardware too

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago

Not ours, we depend on it

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

OK but that is about a 10000x bigger project

[-] DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Rejoice. As an Android owner, you have options of And-nodroid 😉

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