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Xinjiang and Tibet have only been part of China 70 years, some of China's most recent imperial acquisitions. China is trying to erase the cultures of the people of these regions. Standard imperial practice.
Funny you mentioned the UK and the Irish language (Gaeilge not Irish Gaelic). If you like I can educate you on how the imperial British erased our language as the common tongue of the country. It involved projects just like the one China is currently engaging in. We former colonies recognise your imperial playbook and will do our best to call you out on it.
Please learn some history. Pretty please.
The region now called Tibet has been under what is now the 'Chinese' country since 1231AD. Continuously. From 1912 to 1951 Tibet had de facto independence due to the incompetency of the Republic of China being unable to control all of the Qing dynasty territory, which was one of the causes of the People's revolution.
Xinjiang has been a part of china since the second century BCE, however. Where you got "70 years" is a fucking mystery and I do actually want you to feel bad about that. Since no source ON THIS FUCKING PLANET even suggests that. The fucking Han Dynasty conquered it before English was invented.
The absolute cheek of you buddy, first you don't answer any of my points on the imperial Chinese cultural genocide and then you tell me to learn some history. How about learning a bit yourself?
China hasn't even been under consistent Chinese control for the last thousand years, you are forgetting all about the Yuan dynasty, Mongol rule over China right around the time you claim Tibet has been part of China since. Sorry buddy but you are just claiming Mongol history, unless you yourself are Mongolian?
After the Mongols we had the Phagmodrupa, the Rinpungpa, the Tsangpa, the Ganden Phodrang which takes us all the way up to about 1720 when the Qing established a suzerainty. Tibet gained full independence in 1912-51 then came Chinese defacto rule. So yea about 70 or so years being Chinese.
Xinjiang was under the rule of Turco-Mongol Khanates from the 9th-18th century. The Qing defeated the Zunghars to establish imperial control and named the area Xinjiang (which means "new frontier" even the name of the place is laughing at your lack of knowledge you fool!) on 1884. Then we all know after the fall of the Qing China was a mess with the place loosely governed until China officially took control again in 1949.
It's almost like you forget that China has risen and fallen apart several times in its long history.
Now can we get back to China's current cultural genocide in these regions that have clearly not always been Chinese?
Learn what the Yuan dynasty is maybe before saying this kiddo?
No, they didn't gain full independence. No one on earth has ever said that that hasn't fucked a kid.
Cool, a Chinese province was temporarily occupied a millennia after it became a Chinese province. Amazing.
Or, it's like you forgot this fact and pretend these regions were ever independent because your owner paid a lot of money to make you believe that.
You are the one that brought this up. You are exclusively the one that spoke about this. I have already answered absolutely everything else that has been brought up. Read the fucking comments.
Why so cryptic, if you have something to say it just say it.
What do you want to know about the Yuan dynasty, you don't seem to know much about it.
You quoted the whole paragraph but only addressed a tiny part, what about the other 700 years you fool!
You just brushed over the more recent milenia where is wasn't a part of China. Which is why Xinjiang means new frontier and was given that name in 1884. You act like China has had uninterrupted ownership of the region. How is about 1000 years "temporarily occupied"? This is why current China is engaging in cultural genocide in the region, the people there are not Chinese, unless you count all of the recent Han imports to the region.
I'm not American, I'm Irish you fool. Just because you lick the jackboot of your owners doesn't mean we all do like you. How does that boot taste by the way? Rubbery?
No you haven't my evasive friend. I was specifically addressing the parallels between imperial Britain and modern imperial China and how both engage in strikingly similar programmes designed to take away the mother tongue of the local people.
The part where Tibet was under control of the Yuan (Chinese) empire? Or before that when they were just another province?
I still don't see your problem or understand your point. I take the lack of response to all of my other points about the history of these regions means that your reeducation was successful. You are welcome.
You know China ended slavery and torture in Tibet, right?