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[-] accideath@feddit.org 13 points 18 hours ago

They‘re a de facto monopoly, and they pretty much started the whole drm protected license tied to account thing for video games. They also charge quite some fees for devs.

But they haven’t been in the news for anything specific lately, besides maybe the price of the stream machine, which definitely isn’t their fault.

[-] Zarobi@aussie.zone 5 points 7 hours ago

Steam did basically invent the digital games marketplace, but that's not a bad thing in my eyes. It brought games to many many more people, and helped make the industry what it is today. Without Steam, PC gaming might still just be an obscure hobby, and there might not be many games there at all. People forget what it was like before Steam, console gaming was extremely more popular than PC gaming. Like the numbers aren't even close.

PC Games up to 2003 (Steam release date) were like: SimCity, Age of Mythology, Neverwinter Nights, Civ 3, Zoo Tycoon, Baldur's Gate, Unreal Tournament.

Notice what these games genres and playstyle is like. You had to use a mouse and keyboard because game controllers didn't even plug into your PC, even Microsoft Xbox used proprietary connectors not USB. My computer didn't even have an USB port back then. The games had to be basically completely remade for PC, and game dev tooling was bad, so most didn't bother porting at all. "Console-type games" were rare or extremely delayed PC releases.

This all changed after Steam made PC gaming popular, especially with the Orange Box. I remember thinking Steam was stupid back in the day. Like why do I have to make a dumb account just to use the CD I bought? And the interface was hot garbage. But of course it got better over time.

[-] accideath@feddit.org 2 points 54 minutes ago

A digital marketplace for games existing is indeed in no way a bad thing.
Neither is Steam, per se. I use it myself happily and valve has done a lot of good for gamers, even more so as someone gaming on Linux.

However: That doesn‘t make it better that they’re still at least partially responsible for online drm (although ea, ubisoft and microsoft aren’t exactly innocent either).

Platforms like gog, which sells games without drm, get way more goodwill from me though.

Also, I find it a bit naïve to think that steam singlehandedly made PC gaming popular. There were a lot of AAA games, even well into the 2010s, that used either disc based drm, no drm or – starting around 2010 – other, non steam online drm.
I didn‘t have the need for a steam account with more than goat simulator until like 2016 or 17 and I did play a lot of games.

What I do give steam credit for is making indie games popular. Prior, those just weren’t really a big thing. Thanks to steam, you didn’t need a big publisher.

Also: I do have gripes with the gaming community hating drm and other game launchers (and especially here on Lemmy being anti capitalist and anti billionaire) but then pulling out the pitchforks of anyone points out that Valve maybe isn’t perfect either…

Of course Steam charges fees they provide a service! Why is Valve the only game company expected to work for free?

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 30 minutes ago

No one is expecting them to work for free. But they’re expected to not use their market dominance to collect significantly higher fees than the competition, while pressuring game devs to not make their games cheaper on platforms with lower fees, which is something they’re currently being sued over.

[-] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

So is iTunes and they’re still around

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 29 minutes ago

People still use iTunes?

[-] Nikki 48 points 17 hours ago

hard not to be a monopoly when you make a decent service and your opponent is (gestures vaguely)

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 50 minutes ago

I‘m not saying there isn’t a reason they’re in the position they’re in. They provide a good service and – so far – haven’t made a notable faux-pas. But I‘d still rather buy a game on gog than on steam.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 17 points 15 hours ago

How are they a monopoly when you can buy most of the games on Steam elsewhere if you want? Most people just choose not to.

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 33 minutes ago

That’s why I said „de facto“. They have the power of a monopoly. They can do whatever the fuck they want, like charging developers more fees than almost any other PC games storefront. Because what can the devs do? Not use steam? Who’s gonna play the games then?

And valve is currently getting sued for abusing their market dominance for anti competitive behavior, pressuring devs into not offering their games for cheaper on other platforms, which do offer a lower cut, for example.

So yea, they aren’t a monopoly. But, at least within the PC games market, they do act monopolistic.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago

From what I remember, individual publishers started it, but they used a combo of cd-based drm (which would install rootkits on your pc and sometimes kill your cd drive) and online activation of your key to your account. Steam just made a much less invasive system that lets you access your purchases easily instead of making it risky and hard.

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 16 minutes ago

But doesn’t gog especially show, that you can do completely without drm and not have any issues?

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

Ive had this argument with people multiple times and it ALWAYS boils down to, Steam is too successful and no one else wants to compete with what steam is actually doing right.

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 25 minutes ago

Steam is doing a lot right, don’t get me wrong.

But, there are enough other platforms who are trying to get a foothold and valve doesn’t exactly make it easy for them.
They’re currently being sued for anti competitive behaviour by pressuring devs into not offering cheaper prices on platforms with lower fees.

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