Yeah I don't think this is the burn on statisticians OP makes it out to be. Lots of technical disciplines use mathematics, like... all of them I think? I don't know of any field that doesn't incorporate math that isn't purely artistic.
"Statisticians are the dentists of mathematics" like, they do a very specialised job that a generalist would struggle to perform correctly without their level of specialised training, where performing their duties inadequately or forgoiing their services can completely disrupt the function of various area of life/business?
People with computer science degrees often work as software engineers but Computer Scientists are not Software Engineers. Computer Scientists are mathematicians. Theoretically you can do pretty good computer science without ever touching a computer - it's the mathematics of computation, which is much broader than the machines we keep on our desks. Software Engineers are not typically mathematicians.
I say this as someone who is qualified as a software engineer. I would absolutely love to be involved in computer science, but I'm trained for engineering not mathematics.
Ahh "Scientists", that's a job title, not a field, so I think we are saying the same thing different ways. ๐
Also a software engineer (aren't we all, here? Hah), including algorithmic work to optimize the use of languages, but have never contributed to a language directly. But now, you may have ignited something. Hmmmmmm...
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If statisticians are mathematicians then so are physicists and engineers.
Using math is different from being a mathematician. Mathematicians discover new mathematical principles, not just make use of existing ones.
Yeah I don't think this is the burn on statisticians OP makes it out to be. Lots of technical disciplines use mathematics, like... all of them I think? I don't know of any field that doesn't incorporate math that isn't purely artistic.
Also why are dentists catching strays?
"Statisticians are the dentists of mathematics" like, they do a very specialised job that a generalist would struggle to perform correctly without their level of specialised training, where performing their duties inadequately or forgoiing their services can completely disrupt the function of various area of life/business?
Pretty much all art uses math in some form. Usually not a super formal thing but math is everywhere in art. Mostly concerning ratios.
And by extension, so is a cashier.
And as everyone knows theorems in statistics are brought to this world by storks.
Are you a programmer if you program programming languages, or a program programming programmer?
This is the difference between Computer Science (a field of mathematics) and Software Engineering (a field of engineering).
I think those are both the same things. Those with a Computer Science degree are typically Software Engineers.
It's more like a degree in Mathematics (future mathmetocian) vs a degree in Applied Mathematics (future statistician).
People with computer science degrees often work as software engineers but Computer Scientists are not Software Engineers. Computer Scientists are mathematicians. Theoretically you can do pretty good computer science without ever touching a computer - it's the mathematics of computation, which is much broader than the machines we keep on our desks. Software Engineers are not typically mathematicians.
I say this as someone who is qualified as a software engineer. I would absolutely love to be involved in computer science, but I'm trained for engineering not mathematics.
Ahh "Scientists", that's a job title, not a field, so I think we are saying the same thing different ways. ๐
Also a software engineer (aren't we all, here? Hah), including algorithmic work to optimize the use of languages, but have never contributed to a language directly. But now, you may have ignited something. Hmmmmmm...