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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

So in political science broadly and especially foreign policy, the default is to assume that states themselves exist in an otherwise anarchic environment with no supernatural rules. Only responses to their own behavior, to the extent that another state can actually impose that on them, exist to potentially 'govern' them.

States are literally an abstraction, the fundamental reality is anarchy.

States also tend to not play nice with each other, nor with their own subjects.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

So an abstraction that puts you in its prisons when you break their rules doesn't seem very abstract to me.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Although it might seem contradictory, something can be abstract and concrete at the same time. These are relative qualities.

Relative to anarchy, the state is abstract. It depends upon a socially shared model of thinking that gets acted out by individuals. Take away this layer of abstraction and you are left with anarchy, i.e. the precursor of the state.

Prison is itself an abstraction, though its consequences feel very concrete to a prisoner. All of your thoughts and feelings are abstractions, and yet they seem concrete to you.

[-] PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

States aren't an abstraction, any more than the earth's gravity and atmospheric pressure are an abstraction. Both exist and are very stable, despite nominally existing in what's otherwise empty space, if you ignore the whole world.

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