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[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Or your source is a Wikipedia article that sites Rushan fucking Abbas and articles who then in turn site Adrian Zenz. If someone sites Elon Musk to tell you there is white genocide in South Africa and "the great replacement is real" would you believe them? Also your source does not claim there is a genocide, it makes claims of abuses (which there definitely were but this articles exaggeration of events would be hilarious if it wasn't such a grim topic). So again we're back to claims without conclusive evidence that it's only right to be sceptical of. The OIC and the UN both seem to agree there is no genocide.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You’re like a person looking for definite proof of the holocaust using only official German sources before liberation.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Now you're retreating to Russell's teapot. "There's no proof that meets any sort of evidentiary standard (Hence why reports from first-hand delegations to Xinjiang from Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Thailand, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, the World Bank, and even the fucking UN say it's not a genocide) but you just have to believe it". Nonsense.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’ve provided a lot of evidence that a lot of other people, countries and organizations back up.

My sources will never be good enough for you because you are a genocide denier.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And we're again back to a source that itself doesn't even claim genocide that sites such amazing people as Guantanamo bay torturer and Amerikan intelligence asset Rushan Abbas and a fee more than all site German evangelical on a self proclaimed "mission from god to destroy China" Adrian Zenz. And honestly I'm just more willing to take the OIC, UN and the first hand delegations at their word that there isn't a genocide than you (especially considering you yourself are a genocide denier).

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

The genocide of Russians by Ukrainians. You also keep dodging White genocide in South Africa and the genocide of white people across America and Europe. All of these have been called genocide so to call any of these into question is by your logic to be a genocide denier.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

That’s because that’s transparent whataboutisms and they look foolish.

We’ve been over this.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's not though? Either it's ok to question all claims without conclusive evidence or you must accept them all.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

No it's called being consistent. I understand you prefer being a hypocrite but personally I prefer holding consistent values. If something lacks conclusive evidence it is perfectly reasonable to be sceptical and question it.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You’re presenting two extreme views when in actuality you can look at the evidence and the people making the claims and know there’s way more choices then those two options you presented so it’s a false dichotomy.

Anyways since you’ve proven my point I think this conversation is done.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes you can look at evidence and have questions exactly. Questioning things not backed by conclusive evidence is the reasonable normal thing to do. Thank you for agreeing even if by accident.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not agreeing with you I think your argument is flimsy and foolish.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

But you did. You agreed that you can look at the evidence and who's saying it and draw your own conclusions. This supports what I've been saying the whole time. You are the one who kept saying any questioning of events labelled genocide is genocide denial.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You’re denying genocide and using Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes as proof.

I’m using international organizations and countries as mine yet you claim they are the same.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes as proof.

Literally when did I do that? Just to be clear I don't think there is white genocide going on in either South Africa or Europe my whole point is your logic of calling all questioning of claims lacking conclusive evidence as genocide denial is idiotic as it means you must accept these also

I’m using international organizations and countries as mine yet you claim they are the same.

Sorry I didn't realise Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Thailand, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, the World Bank, and the UN weren't international groups worthy of listening to.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.csce.gov/briefings/russias-genocide-in-ukraine-2/

Russia’s violently imperial war in Ukraine is not only a flagrant violation of international law and interstate norms, but it also carries all the hallmarks of an ongoing campaign of genocide in Ukraine. From Russian dictator Vladimir Putin’s 7,000-word screed that systematically and historically denies Ukrainian nationhood; to mass graves uncovered in almost every Ukrainian territory liberated from Russian occupation; to the Kremlin’s public campaign of mass deportation and of Ukrainian civilians and children through “filtration” concentration camps; to the deliberate targeting of maternity hospitals, medical facilities, schools, and basic civil infrastructure; to the widespread employment of rape and sexual violence as a weapon of terror—rarely has genocidal intent and pattern of action been so clearly telegraphed and demonstrated for the world to see.

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