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[-] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Always wait and see their reasons first. Sure a lot of the time it's for bad reasons but occasionally it's not so clear.

[-] Curiositymonger@reddthat.com 55 points 3 weeks ago

Remigration is the type of hate politics most on the right would not even speak of 10 years ago. Now it is being normalised. This shows how far the right has been manipulated away from what it used to be.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

But they still shy away from calling it by its name "ethnic cleansing", never mind calling it Endlรถsung. I am pretty convinced however, that in private some of them at least are not shying away from that anymore.

[-] ennof@feddit.org 41 points 3 weeks ago

I can't think of a single good reason one could have for this.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are plenty of reasons, whether or not any are good is opinion. Daniel Berntsson is known to be against authoritarianism, censorship and mass surveillance, three things which are growing rapidly globally and in Europe (specifically the EU) people are noticing it now for the first time. Many believe (I have no idea if he is one of them) that it is easier to do when society and cultures are mixed. But they may not be against integration, immigration itself for example, but just the scale and speed.

It is surely no coincidence (without having to don too much of a tinfoil hat) that these 'summit' meetings and other similar ones started happening, and are all in private (allegedly for security - but in fact the only people not made privy to them are the voters/plebs), for a reason, along with what has been happening in the world since they really started about 50 years ago.

You are right (as is everyone) to question peoples motivations, but that should go both ways. The poster below in the all capitals just sounds petulant and doesn't really seem to get that they are making the same point back. The people to be angry at, on every single occasion, are the government. Look at why x, y or z is happening. Disruption is as good a tool as many.

Only in the past couple of weeks alone we have seen SKG be pretty much pushed aside by the EU with over 1.5m signatures, a petition for questioning Israeli lobbying in the UK with almost 120,000 signatures forced debate and ignored, and Chat Control (which has failed twice) attempts to be reignited which is unprecented and goes against what the whole 'poltical system' is supposed to stand for. I am sure that there are many more.

A sure fire way to make things even easier for them to control us all, is to bring in higher numbers and faster and confuse many of the people. While we are all looking there, they are locking down other areas at an alarming rate.

If it is so easy for the EU commission which is showing signs of corruption more and more (it's as if they can't wait long enough) to ignore or brush aside those millions today, imagine how easy it will be in a few years with higher numbers.

Question everything on all sides. Why is something happening and why are so many pushing against it?

Unfortunately, yes, it does often just come down to petty racism and ignorance. But I have little doubt that much of that is orchestrated too, especially when you see who is behind much of it.

The only thing capitals boy got right, is that there are bad people everywhere.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

You have many valid points but concentration camps are bad. No one who supports breaking families apart for the sake of "sending them back to where they belong" is a good person. There is no reason for these camps.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't read that he was for that. I (I hope obviously) wouldn't condone that on any level either. As most people wouldn't. I just meant that most of us would have no idea of his motivation, but there are legit reasons (specifically the three thing he has voiced against in the past) that might have helped make his decision, along with disruption.

I believe his motivation might stem from those, and then would wonder why he felt he had to make that decision, and look at the parties around him making the decisions, who's lobbying etc.. and question why that is too..

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 weeks ago

"I like their stance on XYZ enough to tolerate the racism" is still bad. They could take their buckets of money and start their own political party without the racism part if they really wanted

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

No, no, i live in sweden, there is no saving this and even if you dont know swedish you should see "remigration"(i.e. mass deportation) as a huuuge red flag. Like one you could see from the moon.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Like helping refugees return home could be a decent reason that gets twisted to sound bad.

Probably isn't, but it's possible.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

He is working together with the Sweden Democrats. You don't need to second guess the motivations there. The Sweden Democrats don't care one bit about the well being of migrants. The whole idea is absurd.

The term "Remigration" does not mean "helping" anyone with anything. It's exclusively used by people demanding ethnic cleansing, or at the very least systematic deportations of all refugees (rather also other immigrants, choice of groups may vary and in it may also include 2nd, 3rd or even 4th generations depending on their background and/or religion)

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 weeks ago

Oh lovely... Sounds like Reform here in the UK then.

It also seems to be part of escalation from the far right. Before it was no more immigrants, now that immigration in the UK is coming down its turning into get rid of the immigrants already here.

That's correct. And this is coming from the "I'm not racist" crowd. It's never been about simply reducing net migration, it's always been about ethnic cleansing and making sure there's no more brown people in the country. While they're at it, they'll go after queer people and political opponents too.

Almost starts to sound like something we've seen before in history.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

Not just brown people here, Romanian and Polish too in the UK.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Funnily enough, some of its main supporters would be deported themselves.

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