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No genuinely, 100%, actually, fuck that. Forget gender, lgbt, and all that for a moment. In a very general sense, a teacher has a duty to society to challenge children and teach them to be better people. Sometimes that will clash with the bigotry and racism held by their parents, and that's a good thing. The moment we prevent teachers from trying to make a better world is the day our society ends.
What in the country fried fuck are you talking about? Do you honestly believe that conservative teachers aren't already doing this? There is no pendulum. Conservatives attempt every trick they can come up with to sneak their ideology into classrooms.
Tell that to the right.
Oh no, God forbid the right gets a hold of checks notes gender fluidity.
Everything is a tool to authoritarians, it doesn't mean we should stop making tools.
so what you're saying is that everything's fucked, lets give up?
Don’t teach my kids reading!
Don’t learn my childrens ‘bout no demonic algebra.
Don’t read that evil evolution book to my offspring.
I mean, have you seen the symbols they use in math? It's obviously a demon summoning. No kid of mine will learn about librul irrational numbers. /s
But naw, that's what they sound like. They want to pick and choose facts to teach their kids. They might not be going after math symbols this time, but they're still anti-reality. Parents can have some leeway in how to raise their kids, but they don't get to choose to keep their kids ignorant of reality. Well, unless they live in Georgia apparently. Or Florida. Or one of several other states that have done similar and just coincidentally happen to be red states.
Full of nuance. Love it!
Oh, my bad. I didn’t realize the parents were all experts in education and also made the rules and could even change reality to fit their whims.
Says the person doing exactly that.
Like it or not, parents don't own children, nor do they have an absolute authority over them.
If parents abuse or neglect their child (and yes, depriving them of an education is both) then the other responsible adults in that's child's life have not only every right, but the absolute responsibility, to override the abusive parents' instructions or demands, and intervene in the child's best interest.
Hey now! You stop it with that reasonable speak! That isn’t allowed on the internet.
jesus tapdancing christ, just say you think parents should control every aspect of their child’s lives including everything they THINK and HEAR.
Child disagrees with parents? Fuck em, parents are always right. Always. Right?
one of the man benefits of public education are having the kids taught by people who actually know what they are teaching, rather than random parents who think they know. yeah, its not perfect, but parents generally make worse teachers than, ya know, trained teachers.
its classic micromanagement of the kid. let go
Conservatives believe that their children are their property. Or a close analog thereof.
So you teaching their kid something they don't want the kid to know is treated like you're damaging "their stuff".
Conservatives are all about protecting property, even when said property is actually a person who might not want their "protection".
That's some absolute nonsense. I shouldn't have to rely on other parents for my kid to be able to learn certain things in school. They don't like it, they can pull their kid from the class during that instruction. This whole thing of "I don't want it, so no one gets it" is absolute bullshit.
Parents have the option of homeschooling their kids. That's them exercising their authority. But public school curriculum should be decided by an apolitical body that follows evidence based practices. Don't like it as a parent? Then homeschool.
Try getting a majority of parents to agree to your opinion first.
Did you read any required books in school? Did you parents have to fill out a form agreeing to those books? If not, then maybe "you need the parents to be on board" is a bullshit excuse.
It's not parents' job to dictate school curricula. All these "PaReNtS' rIgHtS" bills are bullshit pandering to people afraid of their own shadows. They can all take a long walk off a short pier.
Personal responsibility for all, if you don't like the public system teaching publically accepted science of psychology and biology pay for your own schooling then.
if you cant handle your child being taught reality, then maybe teach them your self? you can home school.
Hopefully we can get anti-science ideas like germ theory, atomic theory, etc out of schools soon too.
You don't understand the scientific definition of theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease
Germ theory is not a theory that germs exist.
"It's litterally right in the name..."
ok lol'd, that was good troll
Independent thought IS overrated after all. Many things in society are tamped down to some lowest common denominator level to placate the masses and be palatable to the broadest cross segment. Emerging ideas though need discussion and facts being what they are the adults in the room are much more likely to be fixed in their ways and unwilling to acknowledge anything that goes against their 'good old days' perceptions of right and wrong.
I happen to be one of those adults and understand that some of the lenses I view things through are tinged by the experiences and perspectives around me while growing up. Those things though are not the current reality that we have to work within. I may not agree with every notion that my kids bring forth, but they're welcome to challenge me on it to explain their point. If you don't allow kids the information to make a detemination of their own however then the future world suffers for it.
If things went your way, we'd still be teaching kids that the universe revolves around the Earth and that sound travels infinitely into space to other orbs where giant eagles live.
Boo