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[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

And Iran says they will close the Strait if the US does not constrain their IDF allies.

Maybe don't include conditions over other non present entities in your MoU than?

[-] zwerg@feddit.org 11 points 4 weeks ago

Iran new perfectly well what would happen. Trump just walked into the obvious trap.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

It's not a trap, it's their condition.

They never hid it in any way.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

And Israel said they won't abide it. They didnt hide their intention either

[-] zwerg@feddit.org 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The trap is that Trump has to stop Israel or the Straights close again. More importantly for him, he would also look week and incompetent if he can't control Israel. Honestly, Iran played a blinder here, and Trump didn't even notice.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago
[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

My comment isn't saying it's a trap, it's a affirmation of yours with more proof that it wasn't a trap because Israel wasn't hiding or lying about anything either.

Iran: We want this

Israel: No.

Nothing out of the ordinary here.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

It's the equivalent of Wiley E Coyote running into a brick wall

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 4 weeks ago

All the times Western allies backed bullying of each other for oil and other natural resources, with the bald-faced lies they use as justification and we, the public that pays for it with tax dollars and bodies, and you have the gall to say non-Western alliances have no right to support allies that are being genocided by a Western vassal-proxy state. Peak genocide brain.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago

You have the gall to say non-Western alliances have no right to support allies that are being genocided by a Western vassal-proxy state. Peak genocide brain.

I didn't say that. I absolutely am in favor of Iran closing the Strait in response to Israel bombing Lebanon. I was contrasting the Western narrative with a non-Western one that is nearly identical to highlight the absurdity of the claim as a reason to cancel the MoU.

The MoU specifically included US allies needing to stop bombing Lebanon. Those US allies were not at the table and didn't stop bombing Lebanon. Therefore the US violated the MoU and the Strait was closed.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe don't include conditions over other non present entities in your MoU than?

That's not how that read, to me.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago

Well no mou = closure of the strait

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